Tony Mowbray ...

[Prehab26]

This 'article' starts with a blatant lie.

"Tony Mowbray has been very public about blaming Sunderland's recent bad run on the strikers, but do those accusations hold water?"

Not sure like.

Saying he simply has to play inexperienced strikers but he is forced to do so, and that is the reason for the dip.

Really clear he isn't happy with he recruitment

 

[Sour Patch]

You’re picking 1 game out.

Its the same every game. Mayenda has played 152 minutes worth of football, has had 6 shots and I think maybe 2 were decent chances. His movement is great, he shows for the ball, he makes runs in behind. Not his fault.

 

[Sour Patch]

So the question is, does Mowbray instruct players not to pass or do they do it off their own back.

If he's instructing them to not pass it's a shambles. If they are doing it off their own back they need dropped. Either way its a pathetic situation which will not be solved by a mythical experienced striker.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Not sure like.

Saying he simply has to play inexperienced strikers but he is forced to do so, and that is the reason for the dip.

Really clear he isn't happy with he recruitment

He's not simply blaming the bad run on the strikers as this article claims ...

... it's a team game and Mowbray accepts he's only a part of that when we win and when we lose.

This is just targeting Mowbray as part of an agenda tbh

 

[Sour Patch]

Not sure like.

Saying he simply has to play inexperienced strikers but he is forced to do so, and that is the reason for the dip.

Really clear he isn't happy with he recruitment

If we were creating multiple really good chances per game for the forwards and they were missing them all I would understand his complaints but his system is causing this issue. An experienced striker is not scoring goals in this team.

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

The Scottish premier league is league 1/2 level. Most players that come out of it don’t survive in league 1, never mind the championship, i.e Dylan mcgeough who was rated in the Scottish prem and couldn’t get in our side in league 1. You won’t find heaps of success stories like Stewart. Just look at the poor quality that play for rangers & Celtic currently.

Im not expecting proven premier league quality, but proven championship quality would give us half a chance.

We gained 8-10 mill from the sale of Stewart, if we invested whole amount into a proven striker, we would be currently sitting in the playoffs imo.

But as I’ve already stated most of this seasons top scorers aren’t proven at any level higher than League 1 and most are young lads. We’ve got a more expensive striker than 15+ teams in the league.

Good managers get on with it and put their faith in the player. Ours just moans about nout and his arse drops at half time if they haven’t scored yet.

 

[Smug in Boots]

If we were creating multiple really good chances per game for the forwards and they were missing them all I would understand his complaints but his system is causing this issue. An experienced striker is not scoring goals in this team.

Doesn't his system have two flying wingers who are almost always given the ball ...

...much like Reid with Summerbee and Johnston.

 

[Sour Patch]

Doesn't his system have two flying wingers who are almost always given the ball ...

...much like Reid with Summerbee and Johnston.

Summerbee and Johnston played wide and put the ball in the box so no, completely different to the current system. In fact I'd say the complete opposite to the current system.

 

[Sour Patch]

But as I’ve already stated most of this seasons top scorers aren’t proven at any level higher than League 1 and most are young lads. We’ve got a more expensive striker than 15+ teams in the league.

Good managers get on with it and put their faith in the player. Ours just moans about nout and his arse drops at half time if they haven’t scored yet.

The highest scoring striker in the league this season is Rajovic at Watford and I do not have a clue who he is. Armstrong and Piroe are both playing as a 10 I think.

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Crescencio Summerville £1.7m
Sammie Smzodics £1.5m
Conor Chaplin £800k
Nathan Broadhead £1.5m
George Hirst £1.4m
Morgan Whittaker £1.1m
Jon Rowe £0
Ryan Hardie £400k
Mileta Rajovic £2m
Aaron Connolly £1.1m
Kevin Nisbet £2m
Brandon Thomas-Asante £400k
Josh Coburn £0
Tommy Conway £0


Take your pick all championship regulars, none really proven at a decent level and all cheaper than Rusyn. Haven’t included loanees.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Summerbee and Johnston played wide and put the ball in the box so no, completely different to the current system. In fact I'd say the complete opposite to the current system.

It's identical until the wingers fail to put the ball in or the strikers don't make the run ...

... whether that's Mowbray's direct instructions or the players' decision is the difference, and the conundrum.

 

[DH4]

Please please please go and watch the full 90 minutes of Sunderland v Huddersfield, it's available on YouTube. Watch Mayenda closely and tell me what he is doing wrong. He is constantly making himself space, constantly running behind, constantly getting into goal scoring positions in the box and not once does one of our players attempt to get him the ball.

Have you got shares in Youtube or summat?

 

[Sour Patch]

It's identical until the wingers fail to put the ball in ...

... whether that's Mowbray's direct instructions or the players' decision is the difference.

And as I said before, either way is a shambles. If its Mowbrays instructions it's not good enough, if its the players decision then they need dropping.

 

[Sour Patch]

Have you got shares in Youtube or summat?

What?

 

[master-simpson]

First FIVE minutes of the Huddersfield game.

1:11- Mayenda shows for the ball by dropping off defender creating 5 yards of space, Jobe ignores and plays backwards to Clarke.

1:42- Mayenda in 10 yards of space in centre circle during counter attack, Aouchiche plays a poor pass and defender collects.

2:43- Mayenda makes a run into the left channel, O'Nien kicks it out for a throw in.

3:37- Roberts has Mayenda and Clarke making runs beyond the defence, passes sideways to Jobe.

5:17- Clarke has Mayenda, Aouchiche and Roberts open in the box, cuts inside into 3 defenders and loses possession.

But yeah, it's the strikers fault.

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Go watch for yourselves. I would agree with people blaming the forwards if we were flashing balls across the box or playing balls in behind constantly but we aren't. Mayenda is showing for the ball, running behind, creating space in the box and is being IGNORED. But people want to blame the striker?

THIS.

Sort it out Tony!!

Bart

 

[DH4]

And as I said before, either way is a shambles. If its Mowbrays instructions it's not good enough, if its the players decision then they need dropping.

I think it was a rhetorical question, there is no way Mowbray is telling his wingers to not pass to his strikers, and there is no way that the wingers are refusing to pass to the strikers.

 

[Smug in Boots]

And as I said before, either way is a shambles. If its Mowbrays instructions it's not good enough, if its the players decision then they need dropping.

It's given us some of the best football I've seen in fifty years. I stood open-mouthed at Reading watching Roberts and Clarke.

If you think that's a shambles then fair enough ....

... it's a wonderful memory I'll go to my grave with.

 

[Sour Patch]

It's given us some of the best football I've seen in fifty years. I stood open-mouthed at Reading watching Roberts and Clarke.

If you think that's a shambles then fair enough ....

... it's a wonderful memory I'll go to my grave with.

What? I'm talking about the situation this season with the strikers. We are playing a different system to last season, for instance the sweeping move against Reading for Clarke's goal is probably the best goal i've seen SAFC score, we aren't even attempting them moves now.

 

[Sour Patch]

I think it was a rhetorical question, there is no way Mowbray is telling his wingers to not pass to his strikers, and there is no way that the wingers are refusing to pass to the strikers.

Well the strikers are constantly free in the box so what do you suggest the solution is?

 

[Smug in Boots]

What? I'm talking about the situation this season with the strikers. We are playing a different system to last season, for instance the sweeping move against Reading for Clarke's goal is probably the best goal i've seen SAFC score, we aren't even attempting them moves now.

So who are you blaming?

It's the same players ...

... are they being told not to pass and move.

The first two goals at Reading was Roberts cutting in, from the right, and shooting ...

... exactly what he's doing now.

Is that Mowbray's fault.