Name change discussion

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Muffinthegoat said:
As I won't support any team other than Hull City, and its a choice of Allam Or Hull City, then I will wave him goodbye. People said similar things about Lloyd, how he was a successful businessman and we should do what he said. Hull City is the entity that has endured for 109 years, chairman and owners come and go.
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or he will wave you goodbye??
 
TygerTyger said:
There will be a near capacity crowd for every home game this season irrespective of the name of the club. Apart from those who vehemently oppose the change, most are not that bothered, they are more interested in who we sign. I reckon 25 on here who seem to have collected about 5,000 "anti name change" signatures, although that figure does not seem to be reflected in the attendance figures at the ground.

A bigger problem is differentiating between "anti name change" people and "anti Allam" people. There is some overlap, but my personal opinion is that some have an agenda.

No doubt I will be roundly abused for this view, but you can judge for yourself how accurate it is. If you are actually bothered.
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Cheers for the response. <ok>

I thought that the majority were against, but that's only based on this forum, so if you're telling me on a matchday it's different, I can only take your word for it.
 
OLM you say there are 13000 on the petition, if you and your group can prove to the FA that these are all genuine season ticket holders/fans who have been to more than just one game (not certain how you would do that last bit, but how does anyone prove who is a fan if there is to be a vote) and not just people you've met down the pub - which your opposition at the KC boardroom will claim, then that will be a solid foundation to your case against the name change
 
Tobes said:
Cheers for the response. <ok>

I thought that the majority were against, but that's only based on this forum, so if you're telling me on a matchday it's different, I can only take your word for it.
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The majority are against, that's why our owner is refusing to ballot the fans, despite an earlier promise that he would.
 
Tobes said:
Obadiah said:
That's a rather rosey version of what could transpire should Allam wish to take his ball home fella.

If he sold the club he's selling a 'franchise' that doesn't own it's own ground, isn't yet a settled PL side & he'd have debts of £100m to account for before he received a penny in essence. Given that we've been trying to sell our club for £125m with debts of circa £45m for years, I wouldn't fancy his chances of getting his cash back.

So what alternative does that leave him? He simply does what Gaydamak did & sells all the intangible assets (players) & trousers the Sky bounty in the summer. Clears the lions share of the debt & leaves the football club to go into administration......

You can't pretend that the football club is somehow immune from his threatened actions imo.
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is that such a bad thing?
we climbed the ladder of the football league once, surely we can do it again, and as it is his signature on the football contracts, he will have to honour the players wages.

with the players we have, we will surely rise straight out of the football conference and gain back to back promotions all the way up to the PL.
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originallambrettaman said:
The majority are against, that's why our owner is refusing to ballot the fans, despite an earlier promise that he would.
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Against enough to make a principled stand, like muffin was saying earlier? or are most merely 'given the choice' we'd keep it as it is, but we'll go anyway?

As there's a difference.
 
PattyNchips2 said:
is that such a bad thing?
we climbed the ladder of the football league once, surely we can do it again, and as it is his signature on the football contracts, he will have to honour the players wages.

with the players we have, we will surely rise straight out of the football conference and gain back to back promotions all the way up to the PL.
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Ask Portsmouth fans mate....

As for honouring the players wages, it's a Ltd company, he'd have no such personal liability in regard of their contracts.
 
Tobes said:
Against enough to make a principled stand, like muffin was saying earlier? or are most merely 'given the choice' we'd keep it as it is, but we'll go anyway?

As there's a difference.
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I don't expect the majority to stop going if the name is changed, just I don't expect AA to walk in 24 hours if it's rejected.

The next chairman would switch it back anyway.
 
Quote Originally Posted by wotnoash View Post
What baffles me is with all the financially astute business whizz kids who post on this board, all knowing and seeing, why the hell did we need Mr Allam's millions in the first place? George Osbourne must be knocking down Not606 doors to help him with his current difficulties!

Unless Paul Duffen or Martin Fish are among the regulars on here, I don't quite get the parallel.

Can't say I'm surprised you don't get it. Let me explain - poster after poster present themselves as experts ................ Sorry just lost the will, ask your Mam.
 
wotnoash said:
Can't say I'm surprised you don't get it. Let me explain - poster after poster present themselves as experts ................ Sorry just lost the will, ask your Mam.
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I fear my point flew over your head - namely, none of the posters on here have run the financial affairs of the club in the past, so their financial acumen (or lack of) has nothing to do with the club's financial fortunes (or lack of).
 
OSC voting slip received in this mornings post.

Do you agree to the Clubs request to change its playing name from Hull City AFC to Hull Tigers?
Yes ....... No

Self addressed freepost envelope included.

No ambiguous message, simple question and two choices.
 
originallambrettaman said:
I don't expect the majority to stop going if the name is changed, just I don't expect AA to walk in 24 hours if it's rejected.

The next chairman would switch it back anyway.
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Is that not reason enough to go with it then, if the FA do approve his request?

As if he did turn out to be correct & it made the club untold £M's (lol), then everyone's a winner, if he wrong & it achieves f**k all, then as you say it could go back to how it was when he moves on.

His whole premise is wrong btw. As we were sponsored by a Chinese company called Keijan a while back & we forged links in China, we even had an X factor style football show over there, in which the winner got a contract. We brought over 2 Chinese players - one of whom - Li Tie - was the Chinese equivalent of Beckham back then. It was estimated that we had over 1BN Chinese watching our games at one point.....did it make us any money? Did it f**k....

As the Far East in the home of the snide, you can create 'fans' but try leveraging any revenue out of them......you might get plenty wearing 'Tigers' shirts, but you won't be getting any of the revenue off them, as they'll be knocked up in some sweatshop...
 
wotnoash said:
What baffles me is with all the financially astute business whizz kids who post on this board, all knowing and seeing, why the hell did we need Mr Allam's millions in the first place? George Osbourne must be knocking down Not606 doors to help him with his current difficulties!
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What's the point you're making here? No one's pretending to be capable of running the country, there are just several people who know what they're on about explaining their view on the situation. If you can't understand it just ask for an explanation.
 
The Omega Man said:
OSC voting slip received in this mornings post.

Do you agree to the Clubs request to change its playing name from Hull City AFC to Hull Tigers?
Yes ....... No

Self addressed freepost envelope included.

No ambiguous message, simple question and two choices.
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Let's hope that the members respond this time.

I'm sure some will complain, it's exactly the same question that the FSF asked.
 
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