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Assem Allam

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PLT, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    What has wanting to know what the fans think got to do with what the Allams are going to do? They could cloak their intentions if they wanted to sound people out.

    If they are so desperate to please the fans why do what they did?

    If I owned Hull City and knew what was going on inside the club I would not be making my decisions, or at least taking them into account, based on fans views when they don't know much about what's going on behind the scenes.
     
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  2. petersaxton

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    I'm not sure they are doing fine. I bet a large proportion of owners are wanting to get out as long as they can get back some of the money owed.

    In every league you will get clubs wanting to pay sensible wages but a few rivals go crazy. What do you do? Pay more and sink in debt or stick to your guns and sink in the league?
     
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  3. petersaxton

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    So getting rid of our best managers and not replacing them is ok?
     
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  4. petersaxton

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    Without the fans the club would be less attractive to advertisers and a lot more who provide income to the club.
     
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  5. petersaxton

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    If they sacked their best managers and looked on the internet for replacements they wouldn't have been very successful.
     
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  6. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Papa Allam isn't an accountant.

    I agree with you about odds, though. I don't bet but I understand the basics.
     
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    Don't know if he's qualified but he has worked as an accountant.
     
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  8. TygerTyger

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    As it happens Madhog, you are completely wrong. I also have a friend who is closely acquainted with this guy, and he told him in a private personal business conversation that the Tooth Fairy is real, and I know that to be true because someone told Premier League Tiger the same thing when he was a child and nobody would lie to a child, would they? So this must all be true! Q.E.D.
     
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    He studied economics at the University of Hull before working as an accountant at Tempest Diesel
     
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  10. petersaxton

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    Apologies. I stand corrected. I also see that he worked as an accountant at the company before he bought it and changed it's name to Allam Marine. He will have learned a lot about the company before putting his ideas into practice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam
     
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    Indeed, i'm pretty sure he'll have spent the last year doing the same at Hull City.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    The facts according to who? Certainly not Ehab - "I think we have the existing structure to take care of recruitment. We have a whole scouting team and we have many analysts and scouts in place. There is infrastructure there to deal with recruitment."

    http://www.thisishullandeastriding....Adam-Pearson/story-15977884-detail/story.html
     
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  13. juleskaren

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    There was a poster on the first page who suggested that the Allams would be going on holiday soon. Lets hope they find, sign and announce a manager before that time.
     
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  14. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    there's just as much evidence that the op's post is false as their is that it's true. Saying that it is rubbish is just as accurate as saying it is fact.
    I actually believe it or at Lear I wouldn't be surprised. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Papa Allam is a big fan of his ego. The reasons behind NB's sackin prove that.
    So i think it's more than likely that he is a bit obsessed about the opinion of the fans and his overall image. he wants to be seen as the saviour, revered.

    it's also clear to me that they are proper newbies in football. they are lesrning but making mistakes on the way. it doesn't matter whether you think sacking Barmby was right or not for footballing reasons, if he had a good sense of football and fans he would know how to have dealt with it properly.

    I didnt read anything the original poster said that sounded massively absurd. So I don't understand those saying its bullshit.

    As to fez and the marketing/odds point, I'm sure they understand the concept of numbers but of you are not a gambler you dot necessarily get it. I know many smart people who needed explaining.
    He probably doesn't get the system and what it usually means. Who fixes the prices and why. I think that's very likely as gambling is forbidden in Islam.
     
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    If we have no scouts who on earth is George Foster and why are we employing him?

    On what PLT said i believe him he has no reason to lie, and no reason to make up what he has said.

    However i do doubt what Assem said, if he gets rid of the scouting network what manager would come in? Its no doubt something he thinks would work but no manager or no-one in football would agree with him. I know he wants to cut costs but somethings are vital. On the Premier League manager front does that give more to the theory of Gary Megson? I bloody well hope not.

    Either way i am not having a go at the Allams just questioning some of their theories.
     
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  16. WhittlingStick

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    yeah , about the odds , in betting it has a lot less to do with probability and all to do with massaging the numbers based on where the money is - so the bookie is always swimming
     
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  17. Fez

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    The silence is deafening from all parties and not just the Allams. A very good model for some of the empty vessels on here! The bullshit is ankle deep.

    The whole notion is bizarre - in what instance are we best placed? Is there a rich vein of scouts and players out there with a massive aversion to flying? Bullshit around the knees!

    Who ffs? Nigel Pearson diod a runner, Barmby was hardly one of our best and Adam Pearson a self -serving autocrat. The commercial directors, chief exec or whatever they were, took us no where except disfunction across pricing and systems. That bullshit's starting to become a concern.

    "Born in Egypt in 1940, Allam fled to the UK from Gamel Abdel Nasser's regime in Egypt in 1968. He studied economics at the University of Hull before working as an accountant at Tempest Diesel."

    Seen your apology and correction - but from what knowledge base did you feel free to post such a strong statement; it does not give much else much credibility. Bullshit under the armpits - what a morning this has turned into; what were the odds on that then. :emoticon-0116-evilg


    Yup, he seems to know how to do his due diligence before he opens his trap - bullshit alert, snorkels needed:emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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  18. Fez

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    You don't have to gamble to understand the priciple of odds - it's a basic of economics/accountancy that everyone would touch on but be expected to indulge in. To think not is a bit dim, frankly!
     
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    I bet it isn't.
     
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  20. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    I'm sure he's heard of odds but you don't seem to get the point that if he's never been in a gambling environment he doesn't understand the context or that there was a list of managers tht people were betting on
     
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