Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.

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Here's an idea, he employs a marketing team with their heads out their arse and sets up, and runs a kids club. Say £50 to sign up, get discounts on shirt printing and other similar things. Send them a birthday card and retail voucher.

Maybe make more difference than a shirt in China.

This. The club have been told many times about how **** their marketing is by many different people. They've had meetings left, right and centre with different people to discuss ideas. This has been happening years now and nothing has been done. Our marketing must be worse than pretty much any other League club. It's as if we prefer having less fans. He keeps asking if anyone has a better idea that the name change to make money, well how about just the basic ****ing marketing that every other club does! You look at teams like Sunderland getting massive crowds with a smaller population and much more competition than us. Why can't we get numbers like that?

Pappa is not doing his credibility any favours at all.

I don't know the name of the female journo that interviewed him on behalf of RH but I would like to congratulate her on a job well done, I think she did a terrific job in what would have been undoubtedly difficult circumstances

Agreed but there were a couple of questions I was hoping she'd ask. Firstly when he kept asserting all that crap about the name being Hull City Tigers Limited or whatever, she didn't once point out that this was the business name. Allam didn't understand at all why she was suggesting he was wrong. He seemed to think she was the stupid one. And at the end she directly asked if the promised consultation would happen and he angrily dismissed it. I really wished she'd followed that up by asking why he promised to do this only a week ago.
 
I've never seen the terms that Allam was offering the Council. As you know it wasn't "virtually" you must have an idea of the offer and if so what?
I was told by someone very high up at City at the time that he wanted it for nothing. His business plan didn't include paying for the stadium as he would be raising money for all the other development. I was also told that he met with the council to make them an offer, not to reach a deal, and as the offer also included getting Walton St car park it was turned down. Doesn't mean it's true, but the person who told me was definitely in a position to know.
 
This. The club have been told many times about how **** their marketing is by many different people. They've had meetings left, right and centre with different people to discuss ideas. This has been happening years now and nothing has been done. Our marketing must be worse than pretty much any other League club. It's as if we prefer having less fans. He keeps asking if anyone has a better idea that the name change to make money, well how about just the basic ****ing marketing that every other club does! You look at teams like Sunderland getting massive crowds with a smaller population and much more competition than us. Why can't we get numbers like that?



Agreed but there were a couple of questions I was hoping she'd ask. Firstly when he kept asserting all that crap about the name being Hull City Tigers Limited or whatever, she didn't once point out that this was the business name. Allam didn't understand at all why she was suggesting he was wrong. He seemed to think she was the stupid one. And at the end she directly asked if the promised consultation would happen and he angrily dismissed it. I really wished she'd followed that up by asking why he promised to do this only a week ago.

I thought this also, it was almost as though she was as confused as he was.
 
It's a long time since I have heard, or read, of anybody treating people with the arrogance and contempt that Allam has done in that interview. We are, when all is said and done, paying customers.
If he treats customers of Allam Marine, in the same way as he does customers of Hull City, it surprises me he can even sell them a oil filter, never mind marine diesel engines.
 
It's a long time since I have heard, or read, of anybody treating people with the arrogance and contempt that Allam has done in that interview. We are, when all is said and done, paying customers.
If he treats customers of Allam Marine, in the same way as he does customers of Hull City, it surprises me he can even sell them a oil filter, never mind marine diesel engines.

Someone should ask him, if he changed the company name to just Allam, would he sell more generators?
 
This. The club have been told many times about how **** their marketing is by many different people. They've had meetings left, right and centre with different people to discuss ideas. This has been happening years now and nothing has been done. Our marketing must be worse than pretty much any other League club. It's as if we prefer having less fans. He keeps asking if anyone has a better idea that the name change to make money, well how about just the basic ****ing marketing that every other club does! You look at teams like Sunderland getting massive crowds with a smaller population and much more competition than us. Why can't we get numbers like that?



Agreed but there were a couple of questions I was hoping she'd ask. Firstly when he kept asserting all that crap about the name being Hull City Tigers Limited or whatever, she didn't once point out that this was the business name. Allam didn't understand at all why she was suggesting he was wrong. He seemed to think she was the stupid one. And at the end she directly asked if the promised consultation would happen and he angrily dismissed it. I really wished she'd followed that up by asking why he promised to do this only a week ago.

There is **** all else to do up there.

I have worked with lots of people from Tyneside/Wearside over the years, and their explanation of the 'fanatical' support the two teams is that "There's now else up there, and never has been."

The competition for them up there is whippet breeding or allotments.
 
I've never seen the terms that Allam was offering the Council. As you know it wasn't "virtually" you must have an idea of the offer and if so what?

The council offered him a joint venture to develop the land and the stadium. He refused it.
 
I thought this also, it was almost as though she was as confused as he was.

To be fair I would have thought that AA has the ability to confuse anyone in a one on one situation, attempting to get reasoned answers to reasoned questions must be like trying to platt fog and confuse the arse off anyone, that is probably a skill that he holds dear, and I thought she had pointed out to him that she wasn't talking about the change to the company name but the change to the club name but he just batted it away
 
To be fair I would have thought that AA has the ability to confuse anyone in a one on one situation, attempting to get reasoned answers to reasoned questions must be like trying to platt fog and confuse the arse off anyone, that is probably a skill that he holds dear, and I thought she had pointed out to him that she wasn't talking about the change to the company name but the change to the club name but he just batted it away

He's an awkward bastard but it isn't a skill it's a character flaw. Far too much respect for his crap on here.
 
To be fair I would have thought that AA has the ability to confuse anyone in a one on one situation, attempting to get reasoned answers to reasoned questions must be like trying to platt fog and confuse the arse off anyone, that is probably a skill that he holds dear, and I thought she had pointed out to him that she wasn't talking about the change to the company name but the change to the club name but he just batted it away

He's an awkward bastard but it isn't a skill it's a character flaw. Far too much respect for his crap on here.

I suggest it's possibly an Egyptian/Arab trait - deliberate obfuscation and deviation - as used in the haggling of the souk/casbah.
 
I think he said, when he aquired the club, that he knew nothing at all about football.
The longer he has had control of the club, this has proved to be spot on and he knows even less now than at that time.
 
There's only two posters on this board that are members of the CTWD campaign, myself and Obi and I don't believe either of us have said anything stomach turning.

You posted the interview and that was as stomach turning as it gets.:smiley-finger007:

We've discussed this many, many times on here. The only way Assem Allam will ever come anywhere near getting his money back will be if he keeps us in the Premier League for many, many years; given his age I doubt even then he will see his money returned.

For me whether he gets his money back or not is irrelevant. He put at risk a vast fortune for our benefit when nobody else would have done. At that time there was very little chance of his seeing any of that money again.

He's took a punt because he thought he could do the same job on HCC as he is now doing on the supporters. It was reasonably safe as it was made as a loan (decent interest), with (he thought) the idea that he could invest more in the developments making him the controller of the club, the stadium and it's added revenues, the additional developments and, of course, us Muggins. HCC really screwed him over and well done them. He's as vulnerable as we are, because he's trapped; gloves off time.

Let's hope he can come up with something better than a pointless ****ing name change then.

Anyone need a generator?

Yes, unfortunately; the Phillipines will need many.

I was told by someone very high up at City at the time that he wanted it for nothing. His business plan didn't include paying for the stadium as he would be raising money for all the other development. I was also told that he met with the council to make them an offer, not to reach a deal, and as the offer also included getting Walton St car park it was turned down. Doesn't mean it's true, but the person who told me was definitely in a position to know.

I thought it was common knowledge that he wanted it gratis.
 
There is **** all else to do up there.

I have worked with lots of people from Tyneside/Wearside over the years, and their explanation of the 'fanatical' support the two teams is that "There's now else up there, and never has been."

The competition for them up there is whippet breeding or allotments.

Whereas the bright lights of Withernsea drain the support away from Hull City?
 
Whereas the bright lights of Withernsea drain the support away from Hull City?

This is true. There really is no other sport to compete with us within about 50 miles. Our catchment area is huge and totally undiluted. We don't have other teams nearby like in the North-East, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, North West, London, South-West, etc. We should be able to get huge crowds.