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36,000 Indian troops died in WW2 as well fighting for the allies.
Surely worthy of a mention?

I think the Gurkhas are worthy of a greater mention than Indian troops, their contribution to the British Army is greater.

Considering World War 2 included the Japanese invading India there was an obligation for Indian troops to be involved, and lets not forget the British forgotten Army who defended India at Imphal & Kohima, recently voted our greatest battle.
 
The Gurkhas were an amazing fighting force, my granddad fought with them in Burma and often recounted amazing stories of the the things they used to do.

I used to pass their barracks every day on the way to my office in Hong Kong and I used to give a respectful nod to the guards at the gate.

As Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw once said "If a man says he is not afraid of dying, he is either lying or is a Gurkha."
 
this e-mail has been doing the rounds recently. I received it on Monday. I will say no more.

Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper. Ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?
Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!

Written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper:

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in Washington , and in downtown Manhattan , and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan .

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:

I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:

I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner - who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes - is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:

I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran..' Well, believe me!! you guessed it ..........

I don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:

'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Our soldiers don't have that problem.'

I have another quote that I would like to add, AND......... I hope you forward all this.

Only six defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ

2. The British Soldier.

3. The Canadian Soldier.

4. The US Soldier
5. The New Zealand Soldier, and

6. The Australian Soldier

One died for your soul, the other 5 for your freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM
AMEN!’

GIVE THIS LADY A STANDING OVATION. SHE HAS INDEED TICKED ALL THE BOXES
Isn't it interesting that so many people in the Western World feel this way, but not one of our politicians, who are supposed to represent us, ever have the guts to state the situation like it is?
We do not have strong politicians, just weaklings that bend in the wind.

What a load of ****ing trash. This isn't America, we're not interested in jingoism and Jesus here.
 
Trash?

Are we in America?

Thankfully not - although I've spent a lot of time there hence the somewhat ironic appropriation of one of their words. So I can appreciate you calling me out on that.

In the case of the letter I responded to, I think 'trash' is a good word though - its 'trashy', in the sense that it was obviously written by some uneducated housewife with little or no conception of what she's talking about. For example:

Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

What happened here in July 2002? Think she means 2005.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

Its called asymmetric or guerrilla warfare, its what you do when you're massively outgunned or outnumbered. We had contingency plans in the event of a successful German invasion of mainland Britain in WW2, and we would have done exactly the same.

I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

What? That doesn't make any sense at all.

...But its mainly the Jesus thing and the freedom thing. Obviously, if you really believe that Jesus Christ was simultaneously the son of, and the incarnation of, a divine Being then you might find logic and fact a bit alien in the first place. The notion that Afghanistan is about our "freedom" is equally absurd. Its all geopolitics, we do what America tells us. Whenever you hear anyone talk about freedom in respect to Afghanistan they're either a politician or a ****ing moron.
 
I watched that live last night and I was surprised he used that term.

It originally came on his Radio 4 report from the scene soon after the incident. I nearly swerved my car, what does a Muslim look like? Does Muhammad Ali look like Captain Hook? It was shameful reporting even if he was quoting a source.
 
The thing I didn't understand is The IRA have been responsible for more terrorist attacks. Yet I've never seen anyone saying Chuck all the Irish out of England

Had your eyes and ears closed in the 70s and 80s then did you? It was no fun whatsoever being of Irish descent as a child. Frequently there were calls to kick us out - phone calls from the NF at 2AM in the morning and all sorts.

Shouldn't post on this thread without saying how disgusting wednesday's event was and how sorry I feel for his family and friends. Also nice to see the Just giving link posted by Lambretta man - hopefully something half good will come out of this.
 
Its tolerant liberalism and human rights that is horrific, third world savagery met with summary justice is quite satisfying, well done the Met.

It's the coppers redeeming themselves since they knew who these twats were before it.

Serious cock ups in intelligence lead to this.
 
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