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I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
That’s just gave me a rise as much as salma does!!!
 
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I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
I’m always listening
 
I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
Very teasing, but also very exciting
 
ok so after a win and a few glasses this post might get blown out of the water :D

I pride mesel that my integrity, spelling and grammar remain despite my alcohol intake. That disintegrated, last week, for which I'm ashamed.


And now, Mrs Smug is calling me to the pool where I'm to initiate the 'end of grape picking bbq'. This estate has a tradition of providing a feast for the workers at the end of the harvest. I'm expected to play the host so may be gone for a while.
 
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I pride mesel that my integrity, spelling and grammar remain despite my alcohol intake. That disintegrated, last week, for which I'm ashamed.


And now, Mrs Smug is calling me to the pool where I'm to initiate the 'end of grape picking bbq'. This estate has a tradition of providing a feast for the workers at the end of the harvest. I'm expected to play the host so may be gone for a while.
I think Smug has the information that the people are indeed the ones we had all hoped for!!!!
 
Rodwell won’t ever be at a club bigger than Sunderland. If he was going to “back a horse” it would be the club not Donald. He gains nothing from being Donald’s guy.

Far more strategic sense for him to cement his place at the club and with the fans to allow for continuity when new ownership comes in, which of course it will eventually, be it this season or the next or beyond.

Donald is on the way out either this season or the next. The only way he’d benefit from being Donald’s stooge was if he was to gain from the takeover financially or if he fancied following Donald to his next club in non league.
Excellent post mate
Haven't been a Rodwell fan since he arrived.
He cocked up the season ticket refunds and the Prem Big Picture thing could have been avoided
but To be fair to him he spoke very well yesterday. By all accounts he's bright bloke and will realise where his bread is buttered if he's to have a future here after Donald.

Was very telling on yesterdays pod cast that he distanced himself from Donald.
When asked if they spoke regularly he just said we have board meetings and Donald is on the board.
 
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Same source as @Niall Quinn’s Dad by any chance? Just you said this earlier in the thread which is remarkably similar to NQD's position.
Absolutely no idea who NQD is, he cetainly isnt one of the two other people who was with me when i spoke to who i refer to. The difference is, who i spoke to wasnt a source of mine, it was someone i bumped into on a personal level and had a bit craic with him. Donald will not let go of the club in this league. This crap about him not being able to afford it is bollocks. Its the club getting further in debt.
 
Absolutely no idea who NQD is, he cetainly isnt one of the two other people who was with me when i spoke to who i refer to. The difference is, who i spoke to wasnt a source of mine, it was someone i bumped into on a personal level and had a bit craic with him. Donald will not let go of the club in this league. This crap about him not being able to afford it is bollocks. Its the club getting further in debt.

If that's the case, he can't expect anyone to pay his asking price
 
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The bit I don’t get is why all of these posters who say it isn’t going to happen are quite vehemently pissing on people’s chips, like they are getting a kick out of it.
I know of @Prehab26 and there is absolutely no way he would get any pleasure in winding SAFC fans up, he is one of us just desperate for it to happen and for people to call him a liar is downright disrespectful
By all means dispute what is actually happening, but there is no need to denigrate or questions posters intentions. There will be posters out there who are WUMS but mostly they are easy to spot and what I would suggest is that when posters know who these ITKs are, they speak up for them and state that they wouldn’t find up fans, then I would take that as gospel. Of course even if the takeover doesn’t go through, it doesn’t automatically mean that those posters have been lying all along. Get over yourselves
I havnt bumped into you since blackpool away . Dont know if youve figured who i am yet but you know me and our lad. When i see you next i will let you know why my hopes were dashed when i spoke with this person. Hoped at the time he was just trying to play it down, but it was the fans wont give a **** if we get off to a good start commemt which bothered me.
 
Listened to it again this morning and its happening like. There is not a chance our CEO would go on an official club podcast and lie through his teeth. He has nothing to gain from it and literally everything to lose from it. We have two huge Sunderland fans as our directors now and not a chance they would allow a lie of that magnitude to take place.

Plus it almost backs up what genuine itks have been saying for weeks

People who are claiming they have sources who are saying nothing is happening are being lied to basically
 
I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
I have a similar thing with Roy Keane, I'm not claiming I know him but I met him when he was our manager through something I had organised for work and he made me promise him that nothing that happened that day would get out into the media, I have kept that promise and will continue to do so.

I have wrote it all down and have thought about sending it to him to test his response but as it is I respect what he did for me and would never betray his confidence.
 
I’m certainly not in the know and I don’t know anyone who is. I’ve seen loads on here thinking out loud about how/if SD will remain a shareholder and I think that’s probably at the heart of the delay in the deal.

I have been involved in loads of sales/purchases of businesses for clients (doing the related employment work) and I think that the issue might lie in the pre-emotion rights for future investment. What often happens is that if a company needs more £ it has to ask the existing shareholders first - they then invest in the same proportion as they currently own.
SD is probably worried that if more £ is needed he can’t join in and therefore his % gets reduced by dilution. That would reduce any 25% blocking share he had being seriously devalued down the track.
Alternatively they might be arguing over “drag along”/ “tag along “ rights where minority shareholders can be forced to sell at a price or demand their shares are bought at that price.
Lots of deals get lost on the arguments over these “what happens if” scenarios. Given the uncertainty around football finance generally at the minute there’s going to be a lot of focus on the “what if” questions.
As others have said - no deal until it’s all signed off... I just hope it is soon.
 
I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
Champion will ask you again what that info is in 4 hours time when your lips are a bit looser
 
I'm in the terrible situation of having an absolute jewel of information that I can't post.

I could post it and blow everyone out of the water but would betray the confidence of someone who has trusted me despite only knowing me for a few years and being on a much higher level to me.

But I believe in morals and integrity so would rather suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune than betray the confidence of someone who's put their trust in me for no other reason than my character.

I can die a happy man because people like him have faith in me.

Disclaimer: I've started drinking early, through choice, so today could get messy <party>
If you PM me the information Mrs EJK is at your disposal and I’ll even pay for the flight over here....once our Premier opens up the borders.
 
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I havnt bumped into you since blackpool away . Dont know if youve figured who i am yet but you know me and our lad. When i see you next i will let you know why my hopes were dashed when i spoke with this person. Hoped at the time he was just trying to play it down, but it was the fans wont give a **** if we get off to a good start commemt which bothered me.
One of the Jarra lads then, I only remember, the Twins, DM, JA and TO at Blackpool Anyhow I’m not doubting people hearing different things mate, it’s bound to happen, it’s when people are being called liars that riles me. I don’t know one Sunderland fan who would purposely mislead another. How can I dispute what anyone has heard? I can question it, but I cant deny you’ve heard something.
 
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Absolutely no idea who NQD is, he cetainly isnt one of the two other people who was with me when i spoke to who i refer to. The difference is, who i spoke to wasnt a source of mine, it was someone i bumped into on a personal level and had a bit craic with him. Donald will not let go of the club in this league. This crap about him not being able to afford it is bollocks. Its the club getting further in debt.

The last sentence says a lot.

Of course it's the club that is gathering up debt. But he owns 74% of it, so he owns most of the debt. And he'll keep owning more and more of it. Maybe he can afford to keep pouring millions in, Maybe he can't and he let's the debt get out of hand and the club goes into admin, at which point I understand the main creditors take ownership.

Either way, Donald is in an uncomfortable position , bordering on the untenable. He owns an asset whose value is shrinking because of an external health crisis, and is reviled by those people he needs on his side.

The clubs debt is largely his debt. If he can afford to keep funding the losses he might well stay around for a long while. If he can't, he will be gone at the point the club is unable to meet the bill's as they thud onto the mat. This point will come sooner rather than later IMO.
 
The bit I don’t get is why all of these posters who say it isn’t going to happen are quite vehemently pissing on people’s chips, like they are getting a kick out of it.
I know of @Prehab26 and there is absolutely no way he would get any pleasure in winding SAFC fans up, he is one of us just desperate for it to happen and for people to call him a liar is downright disrespectful
By all means dispute what is actually happening, but there is no need to denigrate or questions posters intentions. There will be posters out there who are WUMS but mostly they are easy to spot and what I would suggest is that when posters know who these ITKs are, they speak up for them and state that they wouldn’t find up fans, then I would take that as gospel. Of course even if the takeover doesn’t go through, it doesn’t automatically mean that those posters have been lying all along. Get over yourselves

Aye mate. Want a change more than most ! Safc is all I have known, was home and away for years but then just had to be home as my job got more serious and started a family. We desperately need change.

Over here, I have had no abuse. To be fair, over the road, there were only some. I just put them on ignore but then I started to lose my temper when certain things were said and that led to getting the attention of the mods and warnings dished out. That's up to them I guess.

RTG is quality in the main and will post on there still, just sticking to what I said initially with posting on the main takeover thread. Got to be honest, I was tempted yday when Rodwell gave that statement. It's what I have been saying for a while, I was going to post on here midweek as I thought something would come out this weekend. Didn't even get on here once, just too busy. That said, happy I didn't post on that thread and stuck to my guns lol.

Everyone over here has been spot on.