Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.

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Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 2h
Spent the last hour with Assem Allam. He believes only a vocal minority against the rebranding of the club.

Amber Nectar ‏@Amber__Nectar 19m
@PJBuckingham 78% against in HDM. 99.6% of HCSS. 78% of AN against. 90% of Tigers Co-op against. 80% of CI against. Odd sort of minority...

Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 50s
@Amber__Nectar I put the results of our survey to him. He said that was "a majority of a minority."




He's ****ing lost it completely.
 
Look back in Amber - I can only repeat what I said before. Anyone who does the stupid stuff Allam has done will be open to criticism for it. If it's okay to criticise the manager and players who've done nothing wrong, why not Allam?

He doesn't care enough about any of us to call me or anyone else a ****er and he probably doesn't know how to use the Internet to do it on here, although he does recognise its value for scouting new players on Wikipedia.

But as I haven't taken over a football club which is a big part of his life and started ruining it, I think the circumstances are rather different.
 
Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 2h
Spent the last hour with Assem Allam. He believes only a vocal minority against the rebranding of the club.

Amber Nectar ‏@Amber__Nectar 19m
@PJBuckingham 78% against in HDM. 99.6% of HCSS. 78% of AN against. 90% of Tigers Co-op against. 80% of CI against. Odd sort of minority...

Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 50s
@Amber__Nectar I put the results of our survey to him. He said that was "a majority of a minority."




He's ****ing lost it completely.




Only 80% of City Independent?????

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Look back in Amber - I can only repeat what I said before. Anyone who does the stupid stuff Allam has done will be open to criticism for it. If it's okay to criticise the manager and players who've done nothing wrong, why not Allam?

He doesn't care enough about any of us to call me or anyone else a ****er and he probably doesn't know how to use the Internet to do it on here, although he does recognise its value for scouting new players on Wikipedia.

But as I haven't taken over a football club which is a big part of his life and started ruining it, I think the circumstances are rather different.

.............and what about the HUGE amount of money he has thrown away to save OUR club from extinction?
 
Hull City My Heritage

Hull City AFC’s Chairman, Assem Allam claims that he bought the club for the fans, yet he refuses to countenance that the fans have any rights or say in the naming of the team and in an interview on Radio Humberside this morning appeared to deliberately muddy the water and set out to alienate them. Over the years I, like many, have spent thousands and thousands of pounds following City, he has no right to dismiss this fact so cavalierly.

Until 11 November I was prepared to to give him the benefit of the doubt, he undoubtedly saved our club, and for that I am grateful. However, yesterday’s statement showed the fans to be used as a pawn in his games with the Council. He showed how petty he can be in May by refusing an open top bus tour through the City.

Dr Allam claims to be grateful to the people of Hull for welcoming him in and giving him a chance to build his life and career. This is the City of Hull we are talking about.I am proud to come from the City of Kingston upon Hull. City status is something that is granted and not dismissed. I think City also is a unifying term that potentially brings all the people of Hull and its surrounding villages together. Unfortunately in Dr Allam’s world he associates it only with the council hence is offensive comments about it being lousy

Dr Allam also would I am sure say he is a family man, yet his ideas for renaming Hull City AFC are divisive amongst fans and within families. My son who travels up with me from South London for every home game will not go next season if the name is changed to Hull Tigers and as he believes that Dr Allam does not care about the fan views he has not got the enthusiasm this season. Until yesterday I have been more pragmatic being born in Hull and raised in Hessle, City are in my DNA. However, I would become collateral damage as would I really want to travel up to every game without meeting my son in London and getting the train up together? We have had a number of discussions about it. This issue is discussed on other fans forums.

The City council don’t come out of this well, but in his interview this morning I can understand just what a difficult man Dr Allam is to deal with. His responses to questions about the research where disrespectful, full of obfuscation and completely and unashamedly arrogant.

It is hard when you are a life long fan of a club and they are in the top flight for only the third year in their history to see someone prepared to cause such angst and unrest amongst the people he ‘bought’ the club for. He has a right to want some return on his investment or at least to minimise his losses. It is a real mess and one of his own making.

I have been watching them for 45 years and find it all rather heartbreaking.

http://unpickingtheseam.tumblr.com/post/66769542084/hull-city-my-heritage

PLT, use this as your homework on 'how to make a coherent point gracefully' ^

Edit:- and I support every last word of it
 
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He's not ruining the club. Unless you class saving it from liquidation with heavy investment, further investment on the pitch and coaching staff resulting in success AND promotion to the premier league as ruining the club?

He has done a lot for this club already, and he'll do a lot more I'm sure. Shortening the name isn't ruining it, it's a difference of opinion between us and him.

Ruining it would be selling off all the players, pocketing the cash and locking us out of the stadium. I can't see that happening any time soon.
 
.............and what about the HUGE amount of money he has thrown away to save OUR club from extinction?

If he gets his way OUR club no longer exists so he's saved us from nothing.

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He's not ruining the club. Unless you class saving it from liquidation with heavy investment, further investment on the pitch and coaching staff resulting in success AND promotion to the premier league as ruining the club?

You're right, he's not ruining the club - he is making it extinct.
 
Assem Allam said this morning that the Clubs registered name was "Hull City AFC The Tigers".

Is that correct?

No, it's Hull City Tigers Limited' with companies house and 'Hull City' on the FA register(the the FA have a hand written historic register that has us as Hull Cit AFC), though he doesn't seem to realise this.
 
Err. Yes it does? Or do you suggest he's planning on liquidating it and starting afresh from the bottom?

No, Im saying OUR club is Hull City AFC. Hull Tigers is not our club.

I don't. I think he's acting like a 5 year old spitting his dummy out in a tantrum.

I dont understand this. Go on then, if the name isnt the most important part of the club then what is?
 
I wouldn't say he's thrown it away. I understood he loaned the company money, and is making a return on his investment. As with all investments there is a risk and most investors taking these risks should make sure they can still manage should it go t**s up. I think it's quite probable that should we be in the Premier League next season he could sell it for a profit, hardly throwing money away. Besides, he said he did it as a gift to the people of Hull.
 
Okay so he saved the club from going under. Brought in a manager like Steve Bruce, Got us to the promise land in less time than we ALL anticpated. Brought in class players. Other than that. What have the Allam's done for us?