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Fez said:
You say a lot to defend nothing, Happy Tiger.

I brought it up because of your hypocrisy.

I said my bit about PLT's post. Did you not see it through the mist?

I don't need to explain where I am on any form of racism, ageism or Happy Tigerism.

I haven't read the rest yet. I'll get back to you. :emoticon-0105-wink:
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Don't bother. This is a serious subject and no place for your personal vendetta and need for attention with a bloated post that says nowt.
 
Happy Tiger said:
Someone posts views which are clearly defined as casual racism. Refuses to apologise. Try's to paint himself as the victim.

You accuse people of pointing the obvious out of playing the race card?

Just. Wow.

You're a teacher?

****ing hell. You seriously need some education focussed on diversity.
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It was a blatant attempt to stir **** up that wasn't there.

And yes, I'm a teacher, one of the main reasons for becoming one is to make sure kids don't grow up to be dickheads that make mountains out of molehills just to prove a point or to make themselves feel better.

I don't think it was meant to be racist, PLT isn't a racist, if you read it as such then you clearly have some issues with race yourself. Either you're over sensitive or you've said something in the past you aren't proud of and are over compensating as a result.
 
originallambrettaman said:
I've never seen any reference to our player contracts regarding red card penalties, some clubs impose them, others don't. I believe it's quite common for players to be fined a weeks wages for a red card and two weeks wages for a second red card in the same season.

The players also receive a £10 fine from the FA, which seems a bit ridiculous, but it's actually an admin fee and is the same for all footballers at all levels.
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It's one of the few things that links grass roots with the high chaperral of football. If a player took one for the team a tenner came out of my pocket, if he didn't we'd speak.
 
Sterling Archer said:
It was a blatant attempt to stir **** up that wasn't there.

And yes, I'm a teacher, one of the main reasons for becoming one is to make sure kids don't grow up to be dickheads that make mountains out of molehills just to prove a point or to make themselves feel better.

I don't think it was meant to be racist, PLT isn't a racist, if you read it as such then you clearly have some issues with race yourself. Either you're over sensitive or you've said something in the past you aren't proud of and are over compensating as a result.
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There are other options you haven't considered, which tbh doesn't surprise me.

Suggest you do some research into casual racism and educate yourself.

Until then I feel sorry for anyone being picked on in your classes, as by the looks, your response would be "toughen the hell up princess".
 
Happy Tiger said:
Don't bother. This is a serious subject and no place for your personal vendetta and need for attention with a bloated post that says nowt.
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Ah, your normal last and very weak defence. Nothing personal, Happy Tiger; no more than you've given me. Now grow up and stop trying to be a clever **** - you only achieve 40%. <cheers>
 
Sterling Archer said:
It was a blatant attempt to stir **** up that wasn't there.

And yes, I'm a teacher, one of the main reasons for becoming one is to make sure kids don't grow up to be dickheads that make mountains out of molehills just to prove a point or to make themselves feel better.

I don't think it was meant to be racist, PLT isn't a racist, if you read it as such then you clearly have some issues with race yourself. Either you're over sensitive or you've said something in the past you aren't proud of and are over compensating as a result.
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I agree with much of that, but it was a daft comment and should have been quickly accepted as such when pointed out by a decent cross-section of posters. The hesitation lets ****s like HT push his poison.
 
Fez said:
I agree with much of that, but it was a daft comment and should have been quickly accepted as such when pointed out by a decent cross-section of posters. The hesitation lets ****s like HT push his poison.
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It was daft in a way because it's not true, race has no bearing on potential red cards. Yes, there are African players that get riled up; Taraabt, Drogba, Sagbo, Chamakh, Ben Arfa, but they aren't the only ones.

What's annoyed me is that it was an observation, not a comment attacking people from Africa and people are up in arms about it.
 
Happy Tiger said:
There are other options you haven't considered, which tbh doesn't surprise me.

Suggest you do some research into casual racism and educate yourself.

Until then I feel sorry for anyone being picked on in your classes, as by the looks, your response would be "toughen the hell up princess".
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Nobody gets picked on. I have a wonderful class that respect adults and their peers.

They also show a bit more panache when dealing with sensitive issues (or not so sensitive ones) and approach such things with reason and subjectivity. They're also 8.
Doesn't surprise you. You don't even know who I am, so I've no idea why you're trying to be so condescending. It won't work. You've taken something small and blown it up to try and make PLT to look like a **** because he was on the opposite side of your argument. You pick the bit of the debate that has nothing to do with the topic and blow it out of proportion to try and divert attention away from a conversation you weren't winning. And boy has it failed miserably.
 
Sterling Archer said:
It was daft in a way because it's not true, race has no bearing on potential red cards. Yes, there are African players that get riled up; Taraabt, Drogba, Sagbo, Chamakh, Ben Arfa, but they aren't the only ones.

What's annoyed me is that it was an observation, not a comment attacking people from Africa and people are up in arms about it.
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It's how it is, unfortunately. Much has to do with your knowledge and respect for someone (limited on here, I know). It was a casually daft comment that had racist implications but probably not racist intent. I don't always agree with PLT's view on football, but is he a racist? No, not in my opinion, so why make a meal of the whole casual racist card? Maybe because he holds strong views in other areas? Surely not. <laugh><laugh>
 
Fez said:
It's how it is, unfortunately. Much has to do with your knowledge and respect for someone (limited on here, I know). It was a casually daft comment that had racist implications but probably not racist intent. I don't always agree with PLT's view on football, but is he a racist? No, not in my opinion, so why make a meal of the whole casual racist card? Maybe because he holds strong views in other areas? Surely not. <laugh><laugh>
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Agreed. Just because one is offended, does not make them right, nor does it validate their opinion any more than anybody elses.


“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."

- Stephen Fry
 
Castro's Coffin said:
No, you would be better off conversing with similarly intellectually challenged people like yourself who don't understand things like percentages.
I wouldn't want to get into discussions with intellectually superior people who made me look daft either. If such a person existed of course.
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I'm sorry if you think I've made you look daft. Think about how bad poor old Scooterboy must feel!
 
says it all really doesn't it
in december
and out strikers have 1 goal
and that is from the 2nd game of the season

god i miss the team with brady,mcgregor,chester, rosenior,quinn mcshane,aluko and then long and jelavic

i remember once i seen brady and quinn walking past parkers after a game once, i got a wee word in, brady is a legend of all time, i wish we had decent owners so we could get him back

i also met mchsane and mclean together in princess quay
and meyler in st stephens


that team we had back then was just insane
i seen brady,quinn,chester, meyler etc all at the cinema, was a proper team chemistry back then

that really was the highlight of city
****ing loved it

we had a squad full of genuine mates
 
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