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You said you'd witnessed it so I presumed you was there.

You've highlighted 3 people, who have been dealt with, from 2 games. Are you sure you've been to an Old Firm game? I haven't but I have been to Hamden for a Jock v Eng international. Basically they're Neanderthal bigoted pigs. I witnessed more at that single game than I have in over 40 years if watching games in England.

 

You presumed wrong, there's this amazing invention called television which enables you to witness things without being there.

Its not just 3 people at 2 games though is it? A quick bit of research will tell you otherwise.

I'm sorry I just don't share your over simplistic generalisation of Scottish football fans, I know plenty and none are 'neanderthal bigoted pigs'.

 

OK, if you say so.

 

Why are we not having 12 pages of hysteria about the fact that someone said "Welsh scum"?

Is it because "Welsh" isn't on the list of taboo races? Surely not.

 

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I see that was in error.

 

That's daft.

Where?

 

Welsh isn't a race.

Of course no one can be called anything the slightest bit derogatory without upset unless the derogatory remarks are about the English.

 

To be fair, a Scottish lad I know got 3 tickets for the Scotland v England game in 1972 and a couple of his workmates went with him to the game. When England scored the only goal they jumped up andvwere the only two on that massive terracing on the side to do so. But they had no trouble. Maybe being with a Scottish lad helped but they didn't have a spot of bother on the night and were bought drink after drink. The only trouble they saw was at closing time, which was 10pm, as people staggered about drinking from bottles in brown paper bags, carry oots,
One of them to his eternal embarrassment was, after their mate said they had come up from Yorkshire, asked to sing a Yorkshire song and all he could think of was Ilkley Moor Baht' At.
Having said that saw both Rangers and .Celtic fans on the rampage in Leeds when I worked there. Celtic fans were just like the usual football hooligans you got in those days but in bigger numbers but Rangers ones were psychopaths.

 

Huh? Please point me to such a "like". Thank you, 'Umber Bridge.

 

It's not just English. There's plenty of anti Welsh and Scottish remarks on this thread which don't seem to have bothered anyone. One can often hear stereotypes about Americans, Australians and Russians too which no one ever seems to have to feel bad about.

Same with religions. People routinely poke fun at some groups (Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) yet certain others are really taboo. I don't need to say which one that particularly applies to, yet everyone will know which one I mean, which says a lot.

 

Jainist.

 

This thread is like watching a multi-vehicle pile-up unfold on a foggy motorway. If only the original poster could turn back time.....

 

I was referring to elsewhere, not this board when I referred to insulting the English. The Scots and a Welsh aren't complimentary about the English. Neither are a load of English people of a disposition similar to that of an old fashioned number 11..

 

Stop it, your argument is only going one way and that's disappointing.

 

Prefer the semi naked version on the warship myself.

 

It happens, to suggest it doesn't is just wrong. It may not be widespread and you might have not witnessed it first hand but it still occurs. Yes it might be the odd pissed up dipsshit, but thats one pissed up dipshit too many.

If you've been to all our games then you'll have witnessed first hand our fans being homophobic, xenophobic and the less said about the QPR bomber chants the better.

Football has come a long way and its cleaned its act up but lets not pretend it doesn't still have work to do.

 

Which QPR bomber chant?

 

This thread is a shining example of what you're saying.

Right in front of their eyes, and it's being denied on this very thread.