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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Who said I was there and why is that relevant?
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You said you'd witnessed it so I presumed you was there.

You've highlighted 3 people, who have been dealt with, from 2 games. Are you sure you've been to an Old Firm game? I haven't but I have been to Hamden for a Jock v Eng international. Basically they're Neanderthal bigoted pigs. I witnessed more at that single game than I have in over 40 years if watching games in England.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
You said you'd witnessed it so I presumed you was there.

You've highlighted 3 people, who have been dealt with, from 2 games. Are you sure you've been to an Old Firm game? I haven't but I have been to Hamden for a Jock v Eng international. Basically they're Neanderthal bigoted pigs. I witnessed more at that single game than I have in over 40 years if watching games in England.
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You presumed wrong, there's this amazing invention called television which enables you to witness things without being there.

Its not just 3 people at 2 games though is it? A quick bit of research will tell you otherwise.

I'm sorry I just don't share your over simplistic generalisation of Scottish football fans, I know plenty and none are 'neanderthal bigoted pigs'.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
You presumed wrong, there's this amazing invention called television which enables you to witness things without being there.

Its not just 3 people at 2 games though is it? A quick bit of research will tell you otherwise.

I'm sorry I just don't share your over simplistic generalisation of Scottish football fans, I know plenty and none are 'neanderthal bigoted pigs'.
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OK, if you say so.
 
Why are we not having 12 pages of hysteria about the fact that someone said "Welsh scum"?

Is it because "Welsh" isn't on the list of taboo races? Surely not.
 
PLT said:
Why are we not having 12 pages of hysteria about the fact that someone said "Welsh scum"?

Is it because "Welsh" isn't on the list of taboo races? Surely not.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I see that was in error.
 
PLT said:
Why are we not having 12 pages of hysteria about the fact that someone said "Welsh scum"?

Is it because "Welsh" isn't on the list of taboo races? Surely not.
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Welsh isn't a race.

Of course no one can be called anything the slightest bit derogatory without upset unless the derogatory remarks are about the English.
 
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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
You said you'd witnessed it so I presumed you was there.

You've highlighted 3 people, who have been dealt with, from 2 games. Are you sure you've been to an Old Firm game? I haven't but I have been to Hamden for a Jock v Eng international. Basically they're Neanderthal bigoted pigs. I witnessed more at that single game than I have in over 40 years if watching games in England.
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To be fair, a Scottish lad I know got 3 tickets for the Scotland v England game in 1972 and a couple of his workmates went with him to the game. When England scored the only goal they jumped up andvwere the only two on that massive terracing on the side to do so. But they had no trouble. Maybe being with a Scottish lad helped but they didn't have a spot of bother on the night and were bought drink after drink. The only trouble they saw was at closing time, which was 10pm, as people staggered about drinking from bottles in brown paper bags, carry oots,
One of them to his eternal embarrassment was, after their mate said they had come up from Yorkshire, asked to sing a Yorkshire song and all he could think of was Ilkley Moor Baht' At.
Having said that saw both Rangers and .Celtic fans on the rampage in Leeds when I worked there. Celtic fans were just like the usual football hooligans you got in those days but in bigger numbers but Rangers ones were psychopaths.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Welsh isn't a race.

Of course no one can be called anything the slightest bit derogatory without upset unless the derogatory remarks are about the English.
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It's not just English. There's plenty of anti Welsh and Scottish remarks on this thread which don't seem to have bothered anyone. One can often hear stereotypes about Americans, Australians and Russians too which no one ever seems to have to feel bad about.

Same with religions. People routinely poke fun at some groups (Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) yet certain others are really taboo. I don't need to say which one that particularly applies to, yet everyone will know which one I mean, which says a lot.
 
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PLT said:
It's not just English. There's plenty of anti Welsh and Scottish remarks on this thread which don't seem to have bothered anyone. One can often hear stereotypes about Americans, Australians and Russians too which no one ever seems to have to feel bad about.

Same with religions. People routinely poke fun at some groups (Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) yet certain others are really taboo. I don't need to say which one that particularly applies to, yet everyone will know which one I mean, which says a lot.
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Jainist.
 
PLT said:
It's not just English. There's plenty of anti Welsh and Scottish remarks on this thread which don't seem to have bothered anyone. One can often hear stereotypes about Americans, Australians and Russians too which no one ever seems to have to feel bad about.

Same with religions. People routinely poke fun at some groups (Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) yet certain others are really taboo. I don't need to say which one that particularly applies to, yet everyone will know which one I mean, which says a lot.
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I was referring to elsewhere, not this board when I referred to insulting the English. The Scots and a Welsh aren't complimentary about the English. Neither are a load of English people of a disposition similar to that of an old fashioned number 11..
 
PLT said:
It's not just English. There's plenty of anti Welsh and Scottish remarks on this thread which don't seem to have bothered anyone. One can often hear stereotypes about Americans, Australians and Russians too which no one ever seems to have to feel bad about.

Same with religions. People routinely poke fun at some groups (Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) yet certain others are really taboo. I don't need to say which one that particularly applies to, yet everyone will know which one I mean, which says a lot.
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Stop it, your argument is only going one way and that's disappointing.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Yes I've have actually, the season before Rangers went bust.

Nothing I saw or heard was any more offensive than the Nazi salutes I've seen made towards spurs fans or the monkey gestures aimed at black players we still see in the premier league even now.

It takes a lot to offend me so maybe I'm not the best person to ask but with regards to passion and vocal support there isn't a team in England that comes close to either of them.
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I attend pretty much all our games and the last time I witnessed any monkey chanting was about fourty years ago, other than the odd pissed up dipshit it is absolutely not something we 'still see in the Premier League now'.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
I attend pretty much all our games and the last time I witnessed any monkey chanting was about fourty years ago, other than the odd pissed up dipshit it is absolutely not something we 'still see in the Premier League now'.
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It happens, to suggest it doesn't is just wrong. It may not be widespread and you might have not witnessed it first hand but it still occurs. Yes it might be the odd pissed up dipsshit, but thats one pissed up dipshit too many.

If you've been to all our games then you'll have witnessed first hand our fans being homophobic, xenophobic and the less said about the QPR bomber chants the better.

Football has come a long way and its cleaned its act up but lets not pretend it doesn't still have work to do.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
It happens, to suggest it doesn't is just wrong. It may not be widespread and you might have not witnessed it first hand but it still occurs. Yes it might be the odd pissed up dipsshit, but thats one pissed up dipshit too many.

If you've been to all our games then you'll have witnessed first hand our fans being homophobic, xenophobic and the less said about the QPR bomber chants the better.

Football has come a long way and its cleaned its act up but lets not pretend it doesn't still have work to do.
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Which QPR bomber chant?
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
It happens, to suggest it doesn't is just wrong. It may not be widespread and you might have not witnessed it first hand but it still occurs. Yes it might be the odd pissed up dipsshit, but thats one pissed up dipshit too many.

If you've been to all our games then you'll have witnessed first hand our fans being homophobic, xenophobic and the less said about the QPR bomber chants the better.

Football has come a long way and its cleaned its act up but lets not pretend it doesn't still have work to do.
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This thread is a shining example of what you're saying.

Right in front of their eyes, and it's being denied on this very thread.
 
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