The curious case of Jake Livermore.

[GCTiger]

I'm surprised he played at all! I wonder if he informed the club about his loss...it doesn't sound like it.

That kind of loss is very hard to deal with for anyone but maybe he wanted to play to help forget about the situation....and maybe it didn't work so going on a bender was his last resort! And I don't blame him for doing so....his head must have been all over the place!

If he wasn't playing and did take coke then he'd be looking at a much shorter ban! So if the club did know about his loss why did they let him play? The FA and City need to do the right thing here in any case.

 

[GCTiger]

Ultimately grief hits everyone differently, Jake took a route which seemed right to him which was obviously a massive mistake. some people draw into there family, some seek religion, some throw themselves into work, others seek other means of distraction.

Critisim to bruce is also unwarranted, we dont know anything about conversations he or others had with jake about his loss. Jake may well of asked to continue to play as a way to establksh some normalit during a traumatic time (this may have had other impacts on his partner). I am sure the club have put a range of measures in place for him, and the not contacting may be to allow he and his partner chance to grieve and adress their needs.

until you have witnessed the impact of a loss of a child it is impossible to understand and make an informed arguement about a persons actions. I have witnessed a lot of death, but dead children still hit me hard, I can only imagine what he and his partner werengoing through, whilst this doesnt justify drug use it may explain it

Spot on!!

 

[originallambrettaman]

I'm surprised he played at all! I wonder if he informed the club about his loss...it doesn't sound like it.

They'll obviously have been aware.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Lupine

 

[Pedro the sheep shagger]

City have just said they will not be commenting further until after the FA hearing.

Now this is out in the public domain, I think the FA will be under a lot of pressure to go easy on him and I'll now be surprised if he gets the recommended mandatory ban.

Let's hope they don't give in to that pressure then.
I didn't even realize it was a year ago he lost his baby. Sorry not a good enough excuse for me.
2 year ban stick to it. Make him take responsibility for his actions. Jenas is pfa snt he? Trying anything to get a client off. Nope

 

[look_back_in_amber]

Let's be brutaly honest here.
Would you want to be supporting JL if he was a lorry driver who had lost a child, taken drugs and then run over one of your family.
The answer would be a resounding NO.

I would imagine he has a full team of medical staff at Hull City that they can call on day or night.
Joe Public does not readily have this kind of help.

He let himself down, his family down and his football team down.

After we were relegated, in part due to below par performances from JL, although it may have felt like it at the time, no one died.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Jenas is pfa snt he? Trying anything to get a client off. Nope

I think it's probably more about helping a mate in this case.

 

[SuitedandBooted]

As a parent the idea of losing a child is the biggest fear you have and I can't even start to think about how I'd deal with it so for that alone Jake is forgiven and should be welcomed back to the team and given all the help he requires.

 

[Plum]

I have a grip.
I was close to losing both of my children when they were 5 and 7. Thank you HRI and Great Ormond Street.
At no point did I think I will go out and get some drugs.
I reduced my hours at work to help with the stress.

Well, I'm happy it worked out well for you, really. But your original post still made you sound like a pompous old bugger, which I'm sure you're not.

 

[originallambrettaman]

There's a fair bit of [HASHTAG]#supportjake[/HASHTAG] appearing on Twitter.

 

[pierredelafranchesca]

**** me......it really shouldn't change things, but for me it puts a whole different spin on the case, that's the worst thing that can happen to anyone, and if he's dealing with depression I think comments come have made about him needing help and support rather than being abandoned and disowned could well be right, how this plays out now may be interesting to follow

 

[look_back_in_amber]

On the evidence that is being put forward I would obviously support Jake Livermore, I truly hope that he goes on to prove that I, along with others, weren't misguided.

 

[Mactiger 72]

Doe's anyone know if a ban will be retrospective and take into account the time he's already been suspended ?

 

[originallambrettaman]

Doe's anyone know if a ban will be retrospective and take into account the time he's already been suspended ?

It would.

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

Don't really understand why being critical of Bruce is being insensitive. Perhaps I wasn't clear about that the first time around.

Not sure what's insensitive about it. Pretty critical of our manager right now.

That's right, it's the manager fault if a player can't take responsibility for his own actions and grief like a grown man should., great logic there.I'm more pissed off having spent a fortune watching a unprofessional player all season help get us relegated. Everybody has to cope with grief and loss, taking cocaine as a professional sportsman is idiotic

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

Also in terms of football, it's well-documented how when players have a tragedy like this then their team-mates rally around them, if they didn't do this with Livermore maybe it's for a reason, i.e. they know he's a bit of a knob? One example:
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/local-news/colin-cooper-wife-julie-open-3676082
Livermore gave pre-match interviews on Youtube last season and my impression of him was that he was a bit of a smarmy git, so if he was having these 'major grief issues' he was hiding it well, also other people have said about him being spotted at the casino round here

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

Let's be brutaly honest here.
Would you want to be supporting JL if he was a lorry driver who had lost a child, taken drugs and then run over one of your family.
The answer would be a resounding NO.

I would imagine he has a full team of medical staff at Hull City that they can call on day or night.
Joe Public does not readily have this kind of help.

He let himself down, his family down and his football team down.

I agree with this totally. I hope he sorts himself out but I'm not buying this sympathy thing at all

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

Another thing, all this time he's coked up he's driving around the area in his sports car, a Lamborghini, putting the public at risk, sorry got no time for the fella at all, he gets the worlds smallest violin from me I'm afraid, sorry for his loss but everybody has to deal with these things, losses, cancer, whatever

 

[originallambrettaman]

Another thing, all this time he's coked up he's driving around the area in his sports car, a Lamborghini, putting the public at risk, sorry got no time for the fella at all, he gets the worlds smallest violin from me I'm afraid, sorry for his loss but everybody has to deal with these things, losses, cancer, whatever

You have absolutely no idea if he ever got in his car after doing coke, or whether he's a cock and going to the casino isn't a reflection of anything, give your ****ing head a shake.

 

[SuitedandBooted]

Let's hope they don't give in to that pressure then.
I didn't even realize it was a year ago he lost his baby. Sorry not a good enough excuse for me.
2 year ban stick to it. Make him take responsibility for his actions. Jenas is pfa snt he? Trying anything to get a client off. Nope

You stupid little cu nt