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Yeah KLD and Speakman have both made decisions which massively went against fan opinion. If we polled fans on every decision we would probably have Keane in charge. If they believe in Mowbray I trust them and they need to hold their nerve, if they believe he is not the man for the job I trust them to adequately replace him like they have done with all their managerial appointments.
Well said
 
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You can't tell me Ipswich 11 is better than our 11. Even if they are we are miles off there pace.
It all comes down to a manger knowing his onions. You wouldn't see McKenna have Clarke, Roberts,Aouchiche creating zero chances a game.
Or playing Gooch at centre half and Roberts at right back in aplay off semi final

Im not sure our players are necessarily as good as some of us think they are. Not for one second saying they’re bad, they’re my favourite Sunderland side ever. I just don’t think they’re all as good yet as we sometimes make out.

Id agree we have better players on average than Ipswich. But they play more effective football and are clearly a better side. McKenna certainly seems to be a better manager, but it’s unreasonable to expect our manager to be better than all the others
 
The only things tactically I question are the fact we seem quite static from midfield up. Our defence weirdly seems fluid, with players interchanging. I completely understand why. But out “front 5” are very rigid. Clarke always wide left, Roberts or Ba always wide right. One of the two number 8s and the number 10 floating about, with a striker always marked by one of two centre backs.

Persobally I’d like to see much more fluidity up there. The simple obvious one is have the wingers swap occasionally, or even have the striker go out wide. Rusyn started to do this and we loooked better when he went looking for the ball.

I just think we are too easy to defend against as our players are all in the same positions. It limits the impact Clarke and Roberts can make. And severely limits the striker
 
This must be the most balanced and fair comment I've ever seen from an opposition manager

On the penalty-incident which saw Leonard make a late tackle on Clarke in the box, Edwards said he couldn’t be certain of the decision even after seeing replays.

He said: “I’ve seen two angles. I’ve seen an angle where it looks like a clear foul and then I’ve seen a different angle where Lenny gets a touch of the ball with his toe and you can see the line of the ball change. So if I’m saying that having seen two angles, I won’t get on the ref’s case too much as I don’t know what he sees.
 
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Im not sure our players are necessarily as good as some of us think they are. Not for one second saying they’re bad, they’re my favourite Sunderland side ever. I just don’t think they’re all as good yet as we sometimes make out.

Id agree we have better players on average than Ipswich. But they play more effective football and are clearly a better side. McKenna certainly seems to be a better manager, but it’s unreasonable to expect our manager to be better than all the others
It's reasonable to expect our players to create more than 1 decent chance a game (which we currently aren't) imo it's shocking that mowbray can't get these players creating anything
 
It's reasonable to expect our players to create more than 1 decent chance a game (which we currently aren't) imo it's shocking that mowbray can't get these players creating anything

I agree with you. I’m just saying it’s unreasonable to compare us to Ipswich and say we should be able to do what they’re doing.
 
I agree with you. I’m just saying it’s unreasonable to compare us to Ipswich and say we should be able to do what they’re doing.
Why not? They've just came up from league 1? They're literally a manager away from falling apart. We should 100% try our luck with McKenna
 
Why not? They've just came up from league 1? They're literally a manager away from falling apart. We should 100% try our luck with McKenna

but every club should be looking at Ipswich and saying “why not us?”. So it’s not right to expect it.

No chance McKenna leaves what he’s doing with Ipswich to come here. Doubt he’d even move for a premier league job right now
 
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but every club should be looking at Ipswich and saying “why not us?”. So it’s not right to expect it.

No chance McKenna leaves what he’s doing with Ipswich to come here. Doubt he’d even move for a premier league job right now
I disagree, however the point I'm trying to make is, why can a manager with a league 1 team perform better than ours?
 
but every club should be looking at Ipswich and saying “why not us?”. So it’s not right to expect it.

No chance McKenna leaves what he’s doing with Ipswich to come here. Doubt he’d even move for a premier league job right now
Tbf you said we should go for Kompany if he got sacked. Hardly any difference marra
 
Tbf you said we should go for Kompany if he got sacked. Hardly any difference marra

huge huge huge difference. Kompany would be unemployed.

McKenna isn’t just employed. He’s on a dream run.

now if Ipswich sack McKenna - of course he’d then jump at a club like us I’m sure. But they’re not going to.
 
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huge huge huge difference. Kompany would be unemployed.

McKenna isn’t just employed. He’s on a dream run.

now if Ipswich sack McKenna - of course he’d then jump at a club like us I’m sure. But they’re not going to.
So if you're in agreement Mowbray needs to leave, who would you go for? McKenna should be at least on the list.
Look at the calibre of people we've targeted in the past? The bloke they had to replace Mowbray in the summer is manager of the team 2nd in Ligue 1
 
So if you're in agreement Mowbray needs to leave, who would you go for? McKenna should be at least on the list.
Look at the calibre of people we've targeted in the past? The bloke they had to replace Mowbray in the summer is manager of the team 2nd in Ligue 1

no idea who I’d go for, I just know McKenna would be a very short phone call :D
 
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I think you underestimate our pulling power, especially now. If it's not McKenna ( my preference) don't be surprised if it's someone of a similar ilk

I don’t think McKenna would leave for ANY job right now. I’m not underestimating our pulling power.

Completely agree it would be somebody of similar ilk. But likely somebody we’ve never heard of. And very unlikely somebody currently managing a team above us in the football pyramid who is under no pressure .
 
I don’t think McKenna would leave for ANY job right now. I’m not underestimating our pulling power.

Completely agree it would be somebody of similar ilk. But likely somebody we’ve never heard of. And very unlikely somebody currently managing a team above us in the football pyramid who is under no pressure .
Mate I'm tired and pissed. I believe McKenna would come, you don't.
However we both believe Mowbray isn't getting enough out of the lads atm.
If they targeted Faroli before I'm looking forward to seeing whose on the next list
 
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