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Mackem 10.1 said:
Haven't we just signed Dack who is 29
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On a free so no transfer fee to write off the books as he ages and because of his injuries reckon he’s not on a stellar wage either. Paying good money for a player whose value is only going to go down over course of their contract is the bit that doesnt make business sense.
 
Downeys Loup said:
On a free so no transfer fee to write off the books as he ages and because of his injuries reckon he’s not on a stellar wage either. Paying good money for a player whose value is only going to go down over course of their contract is the bit that doesnt make business sense.
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To be fair we have no idea what wage he is on
 
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Alexander Aravena is not for sale... for now: the European offer for 'Monito' that was rejected by the UC

The 'Monito' does not move… for now. Alexander Aravena , UC promise and figure , continues to attract the attention of clubs around the world for his good performance on the field.

This time, from Russia, specifically from the famous CSKA Moscow . However, the 'crusade' leadership rejected the operation https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias...-por-monito-que-fue-rechazada-por-la-uc.shtml
 
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TopCat_ said:
I was happy in May and optimistic for the new season (on the understanding the striker issue would be resolved). Here we are in August and it feels like nothing has changed in terms of recruitment. We are again relying on kids with 0 senior appearances under their belts and we have no Amad now to pull our nuts out of the fire. I am largely reserving judgement until 1st Sept to see what the squad looks like then, but I am worried
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All for signing kids. Improving them snd selling for profit. But… we have 2 19 year old striker and a crocked senior striker. Who is bringing these kids on? Who are they learning from on the training ground? How to position your body. Use strength. How when where to make your runs. Dark arts. Only an experienced striker can show them this. How are they going to improve with nobody to show them?
 
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I think Seelt will be class btw. If we could just get our centre backs fit (Alese included) I think we could prosper without Batth. If I was confident we would invest in a first choice striker, and an experienced holding midfielder, I would support losing Gooch, Batth and Pritchard as a trade off. I just don’t want to see those 3 leave and no additions. I like Pritchard but can see the benefit of an experienced CDM and letting Bellingham/Rigg/Dack play more minutes in front of an experienced holder.
 
FellTop said:
Seems to me a lot of people putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. Just my opinion, but not based on just blind hope and optimism either.

There is no rift. That is language used to be emotive, journos like it for headlines, I dont fall for it. There will and should be disagreements, they are grown up experts in their fields who shouldnt be here if they dont have strong opinions. Like Mowbray says we should trust Harvey who does a brilliant job (dont forget they worked together before us). Mowbray knows the craic and he isnt throwing his toys out of the pram. He will be frustrated and setting expectations, as he should be, but he wont be ranting and raving.

This bringing up the Italian coach thing is way off. It was a non story in the summer, and even more so now. All Barnes did was pass on some of his own opinions because of a tweet he reas and it is back as some sort of reality. I understand why people say there is more to it, but I disagree. There was nothing whatsoever in the way Barnes spoke, or the words he used, that suggested he was doing anybodies bidding. It was simply him passing on his musings.

Is Mowbray more downbeat in interviews. Subtle if so. He has never been the life and soul. We lauded him for downplaying expectations all last season, now we seem to want to read into the same downplaying as he is fed up and about to walk. There is no balance to this.

Bottom line he wants a striker. He knows he isnt getting a finished article. He knows he has a say, but not the only say. He openly says the recruitment team have done a great job over the last few windows. He wants one now, rather than in 2 weeks, well so do I, but not if it means missing out on one in 2 weeks that is 20% better. This is where Mowbray needs to stay steady, seasons are not defined in 2 or 3 games, if we can get the better option next week rather than this week, we should be sensible. Mowbray himself has said in 6 or 7 weeks we could have Stewart back in the squad. Imagine, he could still play twice the number of games for us this season than he did last season. That, plus another striker or two, and by Christmas we will all be saying what a great summer we had. After all, a couple of weeks ago the club were the bees knees for getting some good early business done and holding firm on Clarke...
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Yep. That's probably close enough to the nub of it.

But, like us, he would be being reasonable in expecting a striker with some experience in. It is not as if this situation has leapt at us out of the blue. We got away with it in League One when Stewart played all the games, and last season to an extent.

But one gane means nowt. Nor will two. The old idea still holds for me; have a good look after about ten games.
 
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flandersmackem said:
IMHO Mowbray isn't a journeyman manager any more, he has done his time travelling around the country for jobs.... He seems settled in the North East and things would have to be really bad for him to walk..... That said he comes across as a man of principal so if he did walk, things would have to be really bad...lets see what the near future holds, never boring at Sunderland is it.
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Worth saying that TM will not need to work. Not for money anyway, and he said just that towards the end of last season, albeit I another context.
 
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Gary Rowell world said:
All for signing kids. Improving them snd selling for profit. But… we have 2 19 year old striker and a crocked senior striker. Who is bringing these kids on? Who are they learning from on the training ground? How to position your body. Use strength. How when where to make your runs. Dark arts. Only an experienced striker can show them this. How are they going to improve with nobody to show them?
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Any half decent coach can show them to be honest. It isnt that difficult to coach strikers to be fair. If they have the natural finishing ability, you can coach movement, body shape, decision making. If Hemir or Mayenda can finish first time, the rest can be coached.
 
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rowley said:
Yep. That's probably close enough to the nub of it.

But, like us, he would be being reasonable in expecting a striker with some experience in. It is not as if this situation has leapt at us out of the blue. We got away with it in League One when Stewart played all the games, and last season to an extent.

But one gane means nowt. Nor will two. The old idea still holds for me; have a good look after about ten games.
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This all erupted last night after Nick Barnes was on the radio passing on some musings. It was all his own imaginings. All of a sudden we have major fallouts, people claiming nothing is rosy behind the scenes, Mowbray demanding a list of his targets be signed etc etc.

Today all I read is Mowbray being sensible, normal and motivated. I cant see any outward signs at all of a problem behind the scenes. Players look happy and committed. Mowbray doing his media work no bother. In his own words the recruitment team have worked miracles and need to be trusted. Absolutely business as usual as far as I am concerned.

3 weeks left for the squad to be finalised. 1 striker and 1 cm a must. Plenty of other teams need more than that.

I am disappointed we are out of the cup. But too much has been said off the back of a journalist radio musing and it has overshadowed Chris Rigg becoming our youngest goalscorer and youngest league cup goalscorer. That in itself is cause for a single malt or two. Little bit of SAFC history last night. Times are good for us.
 
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