Summer window

Hemir will look much better when Dack or Pritchard are on the pitch with him.

 

100% mate, Dack could be superb here if we can keep him fit. He might even keep one of the 2 or 3 players busy which seem to be surrounding Roberts each game.

 

100% mate.

He’s scored plenty in pre season. He will learn to use his frame to find space and he will be a weapon.

It is true he doesn’t look ready, but how many times has a player being tossed in the deep end made their career?

Didn’t this happen with Trai, a player we all rate as one of the clubs very best.

 

Feels proper depressing at the moment like

 

Hasn't the Wolves manager, who has only been there for a few months...and saved them from relegation, up sticks and left.
Wolves have sold some big ticket players but have not reinvested the proceeds.

Admittedly we have not sold anyone for lots of mullah.
However I have had the model explained to me, bring in youngsters, fatten them up and sell on for a big profit.

Even with that model you have to have a big enough herd, with some experienced bulls around...

Ie have at least 2 good players for each position, with a mixture of youth and experience. It could be argued we have not reached that statis yet, so cannot implement the desired model yet
We are not in a position to kick on with it.

In fact we have told our most experienced defender, our best player for winning headers in our area and the oppositions, he can fcuk off if he wants as he only has a one year deal. Also although he is injured so everything is on hold. Our most experienced striker good goal scorer, good heading ability in both areas, has been given our top offer, but he reckons he can get better elsewhere.

It seems Sunderland is no country for older players...

 

If you take the players that you would start with in premiership then there’s a gap. Baath, Pritchard, Evans, Gooch all need replaced with players that have potential to start in Prem team. Buying those on our budget is really difficult so basically means taking young lads and developing them. Some will make it, some won’t. Next summer you plug the gaps. If we can get young CF or two in now who develop then the budget to fill those gaps will go a hell of a way further and when we hopefully go up the team will be an all round stronger unit.

 

I think this is a little bit too emotive.The only bit I agree with is that the next weeks up to the closure of the window are important.

 

Bad vibes about like. On and off the pitch.

 

It certainly isn't 'depressing' though

 

Yeh things aren't that bad yet. Just wait until we sell somebody

 

Especially considering she was negotiating the players contract with herself

 

Don’t think TM will walk. Just exercising a bit of influence over recruitment to push a bit harder. Think there is a little gamesmanship at play including with team selection, Hemir maybe exposed a little more than necessary?

 

I think it’s healthy to have a less ‘manager reliant’ approach as a club to maintain consistency but too managed managers is a bad thing. The manager has to respect they are building a club and managing the overlapping challenges of FFP and the like - I think Mowbray does - and the club need to listen to the manager if he thinks we need to change to be competitive- that’s where the evident difficulty is for me like. Definitely feels like we put money making first, competitive second. Over time that may work but only if we are an attractive club to play for ie we don’t lose too many. I think that without Amad and a striker we’ll have good approach play and not finish and without the right DM we’ll keep conceding on the break. As I thought last season. The one positive is we’ve added height which was my other worry.

 

Tin hat on, and don't really want to lose any of our "star" players but if we got good money for one of them then it's the only way I can see us improving the overall squad. Bit like Gykoreres leaving Cov, enabled them to strengthen their whole team.

 

Thoughtful post mate. However,I think the club are listening to the manager,disagree we are putting money first above competitive....I think,in the modern game,there is a balance between one and the other. As you say,height last season was a difficulty....we seem to have tried to resolve that issue.
We are an attractive club to play for,but,again,as you say,we would like another cdm and at least one more striker.

 

****in 'ell like. This is the first time I've seen somebody at the club admit Pritchard, Batth and Gooch are probable leavers

As I've said. I love the model. I just think the execution of it has been poor this summer. Unless they're pulling something out once there's been departures.



https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...y-mowbray-admits-sunderland-could-27485328?t=

 

I think the recruitment team have earned some time with some/most of their decisions.....however....this is high tarif, I really hope they have lined things up and we end up with a well balanced squad at the end of the window. This could be a master stroke or it could go tits up

 

Completely agree. But I'm actually struggling to see who our potential sales could be that wouldn't cause more damage than good at this end of the window. In an ideal world we'd have got a proper bid for Clarke at the start of the summer and been done quickly and then had tonnes of money to spend. Its why I was always a bit hesitant when people said definitely not for sale.

Of the players left who wouldn't cause disruption in final couple of weeks...

Stewart is the ideal one to sell for a good fee but can't see it happening.
Perhaps Hume. I love him and think he's destined for the top but we have Gooch and Huggins and even O'Nien who can cover him, so his leaving is minimal disruption compared to the others.

I don't want to lose either of the wingers, the midfielders or the centre backs as we are already short in those positions. Which essentially leaves injured players and Hume as the only obvious ones.

And frankly we shouldn't be selling those unless the fee is right.

 

28-30 is pension age for people calling the shots

 

Christ, desperate for any hint of a positive story today, I’ll take a made up link at this point