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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. BellionGoalVersusVilla

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    But Speakman is the one that bought him here and has probably given him the freedom to provide that excellent work. Speakman doesn't need to get on with anyone, as long as he's providing what is best for the football club.
     
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  2. Scout73

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    So speakman hasnt donr excellent work according to you??
     
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  3. Coastal Dolphins

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    Neither of whom are established and recognised successful signings as of now tbh. Potential only at the moment.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    If someone genuinely has good reason to dislike him I'd be intrigued ...

    ... many people would imo.
     
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  5. Southern A

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    No but I'm just saying, if its Harvey who gets credit for finding them, its Speakman who gets credit for facilitating that.

    If they both turn out ****e, neither of them get credit :D
     
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  6. Monkey69

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    I think what most people are saying is that they may not like him, but his job is not to be liked it is to do what is best for the club and at this present time he certainly appears to be doing that in a very professional manner. At work you don't have to be friends and you don't have to be enemies as long as their is a certain amount of respect and courtesy and an acknowledgment of a job well done. Which at the moment there seems to be. I work in construction and if there are not a few disagreements over the month (some heated) then really we would not be doing our jobs to ensure that the client gets the best that can be done and so I expect this from the people running the club, they must always be striving to achieve more.
     
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  8. Sour Patch

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    I want ruthless, imaginative and hardworking people running the club. Really couldn’t give a toss if he’s likeable
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    TBH I've worked for years with certain people without ever being sure if I really liked them or not. I've had periods where I have liked them and others where I've hated them. It doesn't really matter ffs.

    I worked with doormen I'd barely speak to, on the street, but as long as I could trust them to back me up in a bad situation we were best mates at work.

    There's too much of this 'need to like' shyte these days, everyone wants to be best mates after half an hour of meeting.

    Balls to that.
     
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  10. Daz

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    I'm not reading too much into it, this is often the case in many working environments and as long as the people involved are professional and put the club first I don't see it being a problem. From the outside looking in, they both seem to come across as very professional individuals.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    It's just as well we'd already sounded out Mowbray when he came.
     
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  12. Nads

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    I’ve dealt with a lot of successful folk in my work that aren’t likeable at all.

    Doesn’t mean they aren’t respected. Someone being ruthless and sharp can often come off as being sharp and lacking emotion.

    Many a person I’ve thought ‘you’re a prick but **** me you’re impressive’

    Pretty sure some of the folk I work with think similar to be honest <laugh>
     
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    I don’t see what the worry is , I am sure KLD will be looking for a replacement for Speakman all the time as well.
     
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  14. Mackem-Tiz

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    Am I missing something? TM was doing a very decent job?
     
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  15. Sour Patch

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    He is, but so was Alex Neil and he walked out. We need to constantly be aware of which coaches are available, because you never know what is going to happen.
     
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  16. TopCat.

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    So, looking at latest comments from Mowbray:

    Evans, Alese & Stewart all miss start of the season
    Cirkin, Embo & Seelt all miss start of pre-season but "should" be ready by the start of the season

    Really hope we don't have another season like last
     
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  17. Roppa

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    Suppose it’s whether someone can do it better?
     
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  18. LD19SAFC

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    Akers is a bit of a worry for me. Missed loads of games last season and injured again.
     
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  19. TopCat.

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    Still young, body could still be growing
     
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    True. Really hope we’ve got more luck on the injury front this season.
     
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