Walter Out

[Tigerboy98]

Can I ask in how many of the pictures you posted were the corners taken short and then played back to the deepest man, meaning that if he was pressed and lost possession it was a free shot at goal?

My argument isn’t about going short or long, just pointing out it’s a very common tactic to have the whole team come up for the corner and becoming more common for the more technical players to be outside the box in case a defensive header sends it straight back out the box so they can create something from it.

To answer your question it looks one of the pictures show Brentford went short to Mbeumo to whip it in.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

LR has gone. We’ll never know if we’d have improved further had he been retained. He wasn’t sacked because of results. He went because it wasn’t exciting enough. His style of play wasn’t in line with the owner’s expectations,

We got Timmy Walter. We were promised “heart attack” football. Fast flowing, free scoring, attacking football, as of yet we’ve witnessed non of that.

Timmy had a full pre-season to portray to, & coach, his system to the players. That’s what pre-season is for. The results are largely irrelevant but a steady improvement of team cohesion & individual's fitness are.

So far …

Pandur has started 11 of the 12 matches.

Jones, Mac, Omur & Slater have been involved in all 12. Starting 11 of them (Slater 10)

Giles has started 9 of the 12 & played in 10.

Mehlem has started every game since his arrival. Miller involved in every game since his arrival.

7 players have started all 5 league games. 2 players gave started 4 & been involved in all 5.

Lack of time & new signings isn’t a valid excuse.

He has used, more or less, the same team throughout yet we still see non of his unique style of play. Every game is like the players have never met each other. Maybe his style of play is “clueless ****”. In fact Coyle, our most consistent player, so far, was hardly used pre-season.

Timmy is a fraud. He needs to go. Many, on here, need him to succeed solely to justify their dislike of LR & are clinging on desperately because of this. Others, without the blinkers, can see it for what it is. He won’t succeed & if he doesn’t then HCAFC doesn’t.

People will still support the team, won’t boo (dickheads) & still want success but are honest enough to say it won’t happen with the idiot we have in charge currently.

We’ve signed some decent looking players it’s time to employ somebody who can coach them effectively.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

You're entitled to an opinion but unless you're prepared to post your qualifications and experience like I have in the past I make no apology for not giving a ****e about it.

Gormless ****

 

[Heimdallr]

Boo boys - who are you booing?

Ultimately the owner

People look back on Rosenior because the constant "Well Walter hasn't gotten points against teams Rosenior didn't so it's fine" line is trotted out. People look back on Rosenior as it's a direct example of "Was this decision to appoint Walter the right one" so the decision to stick or twist with Rosenior inevitably comes up. People look back on Rosenior because the entire strategy of the summer is under scrutiny and his departure was the first step in it.

It doesn't mean people are stuck in the past or pining for something they can't get back, it means they aren't just sweeping things under the carpet and saying "Well it's done now, move on".

Many losses and draws (not all) under Rosenior last season were a case of 'small' margins - ifs and buts, but for me a case of tinkering, adjusting and finding the right combination of players and earned luck. In the last three games, the margins have been huge. The blame isnt on Walther yet, more the management's impatience - smashed up and wrote off a Ferrari because the indicators weren't working. Shame really.

 

[Jim the Tiger]

Gormless ****

Cheers. You've started early. I will be at Ferriby if you want to say that to me in person.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

LR has gone. We’ll never know if we’d have improved further had he been retained. He wasn’t sacked because of results. He went because it wasn’t exciting enough. His style of play wasn’t in line with the owner’s expectations,

We got Timmy Walter. We were promised “heart attack” football. Fast flowing, free scoring, attacking football, as of yet we’ve witnessed non of that.

Timmy had a full pre-season to portray to, & coach, his system to the players. That’s what pre-season is for. The results are largely irrelevant but a steady improvement of team cohesion & individual's fitness are.

So far …

Pandur has started 11 of the 12 matches.

Jones, Mac, Omur & Slater have been involved in all 12. Starting 11 of them (Slater 10)

Giles has started 9 of the 12 & played in 10.

Mehlem has started every game since his arrival. Miller involved in every game since his arrival.

7 players have started all 5 league games. 2 players gave started 4 & been involved in all 5.

Lack of time & new signings isn’t a valid excuse.

He has used, more or less, the same team throughout yet we still see non of his unique style of play. Every game is like the players have never met each other. Maybe his style of play is “clueless ****”. In fact Coyle, our most consistent player, so far, was hardly used pre-season.

Timmy is a fraud. He needs to go. Many, on here, need him to succeed solely to justify their dislike of LR & are clinging on desperately because of this. Others, without the blinkers, can see it for what it is. He won’t succeed & if he doesn’t then HCAFC doesn’t.

People will still support the team, won’t boo (dickheads) & still want success but are honest enough to say it won’t happen with the idiot we have in charge currently.

We’ve signed some decent looking players it’s time to employ somebody who can coach them effectively.

The idiot we have in charge May well be the owner mate

 

[Amin Arrears]

Cheers. You've started early. I will be at Ferriby if you want to say that to me in person.

Never had you down as an internet hard man

 

[bradymk2]

Zero tolerance for violence

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Cheers. You've started early. I will be at Ferriby if you want to say that to me in person.

Will you be the one with the over-inflated ego spouting ****?

 

[bradymk2]

Never had you down as an internet hard man

Ill do you in lad

 

[Jim the Tiger]

Never had you down as an internet hard man

Just don't expect a bloke to insult someone from behind a pretend name. No time for it.

You don't have to agree with someone but to start calling them names is pathetic. He wouldn't say it to me in person so don't do it from behind your little alias.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

The idiot we have in charge May well be the owner mate

He’s not covering himself on glory. Although he may improve this by employing a manager with pedigree.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Just don't expect a bloke to insult someone from behind a pretend name. No time for it.

You don't have to agree with someone but to start calling them names is pathetic. He wouldn't say it to me in person so don't do it from behind your little alias.

He says behind his alias.

 

[bradymk2]

When russel gets sacked
Do we go for him?

Wed get lucy pinder round the kc

 

[SydneyTiger14]

You're entitled to an opinion but unless you're prepared to post your qualifications and experience like I have in the past I make no apology for not giving a ****e about it.

I don't really care if you're Pep Guardiola, but what we just watched last night was a whole bunch of **** and the only people defending that are those that have alternate reasons for wanting Walter to be a success.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

My argument isn’t about going short or long, just pointing out it’s a very common tactic to have the whole team come up for the corner and becoming more common for the more technical players to be outside the box in case a defensive header sends it straight back out the box so they can create something from it.

To answer your question it looks one of the pictures show Brentford went short to Mbeumo to whip it in.

So Mbeumo whipped it in instead of working it back to the deepest or one of the deepest players, cheers. My point being that specifically our tactic of playing the short corner all the way back is doomed to failure. This isn't the first game we've done it and I've called it out in previous games. Playing a short corner all the way back - sometimes all the way back to the keeper - negates the entire concept of the corner. It's daft. Claiming that we conceded because of an error and not because of an intentional tactic is equally daft.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

When russel gets sacked
Do we go for him?

Wed get lucy pinder round the kc

Eh

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Ultimately the owner



Many losses and draws (not all) under Rosenior last season were a case of 'small' margins - ifs and buts, but for me a case of tinkering, adjusting and finding the right combination of players and earned luck. In the last three games, the margins have been huge. The blame isnt on Walther yet, more the management's impatience - smashed up and wrote off a Ferrari because the indicators weren't working. Shame really.

I think we're agreeing? That it was fine margins and evolution not revolution was required. We've taken a sledgehammer to the set up when it just needed a chisel. Yes the loanees went back, but thinking we couldn't evolve the squad to progress this season under LR is bonkers.

 

[bradymk2]

Eh

russel martin
saints manager

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

I don't really care if you're Pep Guardiola, but what we just watched last night was a whole bunch of **** and the only people defending that are those that have alternate reasons for wanting Walter to be a success.

It’s not alternate reasons I would doubt
They just want him to succeed as it’s our club