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Interesting that Alfie House should repost this today…
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I remember saying the same.
Still and Tonda havent helped themselves, but the problems at the club lay far beyond the manager.
Still and Tonda havent helped themselves, but the problems at the club lay far beyond the manager.
I like this new and improved snarky Alfie. He's tweeted a couple of things recently which suggest to me he's being briefed by someone in the club who's had enough
I was thinking this coming home yesterday, that there's definitely a tide turning from our "media reps", I get the vibe that both him and Blackmore are starting to sound like they've had enough and have lost faith a little.
Interesting.
Im surprised it’s taken people this long honestly. Our club has been picked apart by vultures and used as a scraps business since Koeman left and Katharina Liebherr lost Cortese, from there it just became a sell your best assets every year kinda club and players weren’t bought for a future project, they were bought to do their time and be sold for profit.
We’ve fostered a culture of failure and of being a stepping stone club. All of our recruitment, from manager to pitch, is of young people who we can eventually offload to reap the financial rewards. Our owners don’t give a **** about being in the PL beyond its financial incentives. We want to just be proud of the club we support, they just want a stable income. The last thing these ****s give a **** about is the performance on the pitch. I’ve never felt so detached with this football club and so apathetic towards their results.
We’ve fostered a culture of failure and of being a stepping stone club. All of our recruitment, from manager to pitch, is of young people who we can eventually offload to reap the financial rewards. Our owners don’t give a **** about being in the PL beyond its financial incentives. We want to just be proud of the club we support, they just want a stable income. The last thing these ****s give a **** about is the performance on the pitch. I’ve never felt so detached with this football club and so apathetic towards their results.
I said at the time Will Still went that he wasn’t necessarily the problem, but he also wasn’t the solution.
Pretty much the same for Tonda.
Pretty much the same for Tonda.
Not sure any manager is a solution at this point, and any who could be won't be of interest to the powers that be I expect as they'll want lots of control.
We've got so many issues that not any one thing is going to fix us. Ditching Baz and bringing in a new GK, sure it might improve us slightly. But the defence is still a car crash, the midfield is still non existent, the playing style is still too slow and reserved, the manager still has no idea how to make in game changes to counter what's going wrong on the pitch, the players attitudes and cliques are still going to be a problem etc etc. You can keep trying to make small positive steps in the right direction that will hopefully add up over time to turn the car crash that is SFC around though. Another young, completely inexperienced manager doesn't seem likely to do that, as is being shown.
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We need an experienced football man, not a young ‘yes man’ with no experience.
Someone that actually has a record of doing OK somewhere else.
However, it’s not just on the manager. We also need a striker and a centre back. Some PL loans maybe. (Lascelles? Awoniyi?)
I’d like to shift out Stephen’s. Also get rid of Manning and get a left back in too; but I doubt all this can be done in Jan.
We needed a huge overhaul in the summer. We need it even more at the start of the Jan window.
I hope the club are actually working on something behind the scenes.
Getting rid of Bazunu is a good first step, but it’s too little too late so far.
This season was always going to be extremely difficult after the disaster of last season. Pretty sure we have a group of bad eggs still remaining at the club which I believe Spors is aware of (though does make you question with Stephens new contract) I think a bigger overhaul will come this summer with the emphasis on getting rid of the squad players from the last 3-4 seasons as the refresh button truly needs hitting.
To much negativity around the club with to many players being perennial failures.
Then a new, hopefully more experienced manager can be bought in this summer. Wishing thinking I know
To much negativity around the club with to many players being perennial failures.
Then a new, hopefully more experienced manager can be bought in this summer. Wishing thinking I know
The problem is to Sport Republic, an experienced manager is already at or near enough at their ceiling. Can't make money on a bloke who other teams aren't actively looking to poach. So just like the kids we'll use a computer model for buy cheap, sell high.
This is why pretty much every one of their key signings has been ****e. Desperately needed a striker for years. Literally years. Rather than spend circa 10 million on someone we know could do the job we blow it on ****ing Downs who was so **** he couldn't even last a season. Why? Because if all the stars aligned we could have sold him for ££££ later down the line.
We're a small, unimportant part of the football trading company that is Sport Republic. We don't exist as a club with a proud and long tradition to them. We're a vehicle for giving kids a chance and hoping they turn a profit.
**** SR.
Mate, can you change the record, please?
All you ever post is the same thing about how we are a selling club and have been for years and years. Yes, we get it, and we are all aware of this.
I know I sound like an a*sehole, but I just don't think I've ever seen you comment about anything else. Please correct me if I'm wrong (I usually am).
No. Sorry that my feelings on the club are making you feel bad. But no. Because I think it’s 99.9% of the reason we are where we are and I’m finally starting to see people on this forum say the same thing. So nah, I’m good, thanks though. I’ve made many different points on this forum but unfortunately they all wrap back around to this overall point. You say we get it and we are all aware but usually you push back “all clubs sell their best” so clearly that isn’t the case and I’ll happily keep beating the drum.
I have a good friend who supports Man United and there are so many similarities between us as clubs right now, the fans repeatedly asking for a change of manager without stepping out and looking at the problem as a whole and seeing the damage the owners are doing. And now after years the fans are finally starting to point the blame where they should. I’ve been going on about the selling issue and the way the club has been run for years because it’s been an issue for years and now finally it seems that fans are turning the blame where they should and now I should just shut up cause you get it already? Well we are still in a ****show so I don’t think I will because the problem is still there.
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This is a confusing post. The issue isn't that we're a "selling club", because as has been pointed out until everyone is blue in the face, nearly every club is a selling club - not least the likes of Brighton and Brentford who (for the moment) have nailed that model. A model that was based on when we used to do it well also.
Our issue (or one of them) is a recruitment issue. There are also nefarious goings on at the club with some of the players, and there may be some truth to there being far too much interference from above. So yes, similar to Man United in that sense.
People are turning on the board because of the second part of this, not because we're a 'selling club', which is where I think Che is getting frustrated. Your posts continually bang on about us being a 'selling club' and that being the problem, when it's not really that. Which you seem to understand from the second paragraph, if not the first. You're comparing our problems to MU, whose problems aren't because they're a 'selling club', so yes, a bit confusing as to your point really.
There are also nefarious goings on at the club with some of the players, and there may be some truth to there being far too much interference from above.
Interference from above being Spors, SR or both?
Just to add to what Laces wrote;
I get the frustration (we all feel it), but I just don’t really get who you’re angry with. Obviously SR, because we’re a mess right now. Got it. But they had nothing to do with the Post-Koeman era, which you always refer to. That would be Gao. And he had nothing to do with the Poch-era exodus. That was under Kat Liebherr. If you wanna go further back I remember having Hoddle/Dean Richards taken by Spurs in the 00s, and of course Shearer/Flowers by Blackburn in the 90s.
Selling our best players has happened always and it will never stop, and it is even harder to prevent it in this day and age.
Watch West Ham or Forest get picked apart if either of them go down, and WH in particular are a much bigger club than us.
Show me a club of our size who has a reputation for saying ‘no’ when the big boys get their wallets out. I can’t think of one.
Exactly. Only the other day we were mourning the loss of Martin Chivers, who was the first example of “selling our best” in my Saints-fan experience. The key to success with this phenomenon is in who you recruit to replace the sold asset, and that’s where we have been struggling in recent years. The £75 million we received for VVD in 2018 was largely spaffed up the wall, but no one at the club today is responsible for that.