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Don't even know what to say about this circus anymore. It's a joke.
I tend to agree, we have collapsed like this time and time again. Get a new manager, rinse and repeat. Really not sure what the answer is. My biggest frustration is with the mentality of our players obsessed with the easy pass pack or sideways which they inevitably **** up. Surely we see better results/performances with a more attacking mindset. It just feels as though it has been coached out of them over a long period. Two months ago, we looked good with Fellowes, Azaz and Scienza and have since reverted to type, almost as though players have been dragged down to our squad level
Having an experienced manager, who is strong enough to tell SR about the need to add leadership and mental strength into the side, would be a good place to start.
We must have spent roughly £15m on Quarshie, Downs and Roerslev alone in the summer (and that's before considering all the previous summers under SR). Could that money have been better spent? Handing out a new contract to Stephens was not the answer - if anything, it was very much the opposite of being the answer.
Do you see any place where Solak decides to cut his losses and sell us?
I’m honestly struggling to see them ever working out.
No idea. I guess only he can answer that.
But whilst he and SR are in situ, it's difficult to see light at the end of the tunnel.
Yeah I get that, I was maybe more thinking if we don’t go back up, which I don’t think we will for a while, or indeed if we were to go down again.
Surely then we aren’t part of their model.
The Circus is often entertaining though, this is not a circus! I wouldn’t mind if it was a joke, but it’s not that either. I fear for the Club now more than before because we the fans feel cheated by the way things are done and it’s been going on a very long time, albeit we had a brief respite a few games ago.
I’ve come to the reluctant conclusion that SR, despite putting money into the Club are likely to let things slide so much that being in the playoffs for League 1 would be seen as progress by them. My biggest concern is that we are almost in Sheffield Wednesday territory now regarding the future. Will my next trip to SMS V Hull prove me wrong, I really hope so, because if it doesn’t, it may be my last for a good while.
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We are currently in the clown's car when all the wheels fly off...
I actually think that even had they got Danny Röhl, they'd somehow have contrived to make him **** too.
I was thinking on the way home has a team ever had 3 managers in successive seasons before? Would actually be the third time in four seasons too.
Kind of impressive in it's own way, another record for the books.
Unsurprisingly, Watford have. They had three different managers in 21-22 (when they were relegated from the PL), then three further managers in 22-23 (when they failed to get promoted).
That was then followed by two further managers in 23-24. So eight managers in three seasons.
Nailed it.
The piss poor mentality and bottle has been a problem at the club going back as far as Ralph and is still a huge factor today.
Giving Jack a new contract really set the tone imo and sums up nicely how poor we've been at addressing this fact.
You're right that is unsurprising, could only be them!
We could be on for 9 in 4 seasons mind which is hilariously poor.
No longer are we able to mock Watford regarding this though.
And to be fair to Watford, those eight managers included Ranieri, Hodgson, Edwards, Billic, and Wilder. We're not exactly talking Selles, Rusk and Tonda.
Even Ismael, whilst not someone who has ever managed in the PL, joined them with Championship experience from Barnsley and WBA.
Oh its a special skill to make so many managers appear ****. On the current guy, I've said a few times that I think he could make a decent manager in the right set up. I still hold to that, but the guy is dead in the water with this set up.
Substitute any name you like in Laces' quote --- Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta, Danny Champion of the World, The Messiah. This lot could **** up anyone's career.
I think that they wanted Gary O’Neil, an experienced manager , but due the fans putting grievances about his association with Portsmouth as being more important than the best option available for Saints, with a lack of alternative options Tonda stepped in and started well. I agree that they offered him the job too early and should have waited.
