The Massa Question

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does Mass astill belong in F1

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Just noticed that Massa has got Ferrari a little over 3% of its total championship points this season. That's a number to put against how bad its got.

Schumacher's got 4.6% of Mercedeses's'.

Probably after, it's still early in the season, there is still time for him to improve (unlikely, but anything is possible)

I think he'll still be there at the end of the season.
 
Schumacher's got 4.6% of Mercedeses's'.



I think he'll still be there at the end of the season.

Ferrari would be brave/foolish to retain him considering the season he's having. Only today, Luca is talking about winning the title, you need 2 competitive drivers to do that, Ferrari are in danger of being left behind soon.
 
Fernando might keep in throwing distance to the top at the end, but Massa will drag them behind Lotus and that's a lot of money gone!
 
A good solid performance from Massa today, all weekend in fact, but can he keep it up and will it make a difference? Massa's worst fault for me is his lack of consistency during a race, he starts fast enough then sort of drifts out of it slowly and I was expecting more of the same but he finished a respectable 6 seconds behind Alonso. Are things turning for Massa, or was it justa one off?
 
I hope today was the start of a fresh start for Massa. If he can keep getting better, and get back to his best, then he deserves the Ferrari seat, if he flails around in mediocrity, then Perez/Kobayashi/Di Resta deserve a shot in the 2nd car.
 
Its too early to eat any humble pie, but a good race at last. Now if he keeps it going he'll be worth his seat again.
 
I'd stake my house on Massa being sacked at the end of the season.

No. Scrub that;
just in case my intuition is showing signs of age, make it a car.
 
Massa will collapse again at the next race. He did well in monaco but not as good as he should of done. The team were expecting him to jump Hamilton and vettel on the pit stops and he failed
 
Massa will collapse again at the next race. He did well in monaco but not as good as he should of done. The team were expecting him to jump Hamilton and vettel on the pit stops and he failed

It was the teams fault for keeping him on the same set of tyres too long when he was losing time.
 
The problem for Massa yesterday was being trapped behind Alonso when he was faster, he kept it going though, which is rare these days for him
 
The problem for Massa yesterday was being trapped behind Alonso when he was faster, he kept it going though, which is rare these days for him

I think it was more the case Alonso was keeping clear of Hamilton to preserve his tyres so he could get those fastest laps to jump him at the 1st pit stop. letting Massa past could of jeoperdised that podium position
 
I think this performance shows that he still has something to offer F1. The issue in relation to Ferrari, is whether he is consistent enough and who else is available?
 
I think this performance shows that he still has something to offer F1. The issue in relation to Ferrari, is whether he is consistent enough and who else is available?

I think one of the beeb pundits (it may have been Gary Anderson) explained Massa's sudden resurgence pretty well. Monaco was a low speed track, where aero deficiencies are hidden due to the low speeds. Massa is clearly struggling with the balance of the car in higher speed corners, and it's making him slow.
 
I think this performance shows that he still has something to offer F1. The issue in relation to Ferrari, is whether he is consistent enough and who else is available?

He's always had the speed, consistency has been his problem. A few races last year he was very close to Alonso, arguably quicker in Canada and China. His performance on Sunday probably saved his seat for the rest of the year, but unless he can convince Ferrari that he can keep it up, he won't be in a Ferrari next year.