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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Stoke owners are the richest in the division iirc. Definitely one of if not. But I just don’t see them spunking £30k a week on a striker when they signed Gayle last season who’s within the top 1% of earners in the division just from the portion of wage that Stoke pay, plus they have Jacob Brown on a decent wage. They’ve just been hammered by FFP they won’t fall into the trap again you’d imagine.
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TBF our owners are not short of a few quid but are trying to build a sustainable model. If Stokes owners want to shovel money into the club then they will have to find a way to do that within the rules of FFP the same way our owners would have to so in that respect I am trying to view it from a within the rules kind of way. I have no doubt that if Sunderland needed a large injection of cash we would have improvements of shirt sponsors or stadium naming rights etc. (Who fancies THE BLACKROCK STADIUM OF LIGHT) lol
 
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TPFNAC said:
As has happened since Moses was a boy, the buying club have spoken to his agent and laid out pretty much what the offer is.

Yes, it's called tapping up, but it's always happened and always will.

Do you honestly think a buying club put a bid in and hope they can agree personal terms with he player? They will already have the bones of a deal agreed well before submitting a bid
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He hasn’t been offered anything but if he had, and that information was known well enough that someone could post it on a message board, then Stoke are breaking rules and would’ve been reported.
 
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Scootsie said:
He hasn’t been offered anything but if he had, and that information was known well enough that someone could post it on a message board, then Stoke are breaking rules and would’ve been reported.
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Fair enough, mate if you honestly believe tapping up doesnt happen then i'm not going to argue with you, but i am afraid it does and will always happen
 
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samwise_new said:
these saudi links...

buying two or three players from some clubs adds to their turnover meaning more to spend within the rules, with modern transfer fees being what they are, a couple of even moderate players sold can add 100 million boost to spending power.

basically, it stinks!!
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No different from money laundering really. Can't run one business within the rules so buy another to feed it and make it appear legit.
 
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marcusblackcat said:
The line in that article where it’s talking about PIF having a stake I’m Chelsea, it says “club sources have rejected suggestions of any direct involvement”

That, in itself, should raise massive alarm bells. The fact that it says “direct” indicates there us some involvement!
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How many Chelsea players have been sold to pif owned clubs ? And for what fee ?

The situation needs to be monitored, but I don't see a reason to panic about it at the moment
 
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I predicted this would happen. Surely the FA have to look into this.

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Scootsie said:
He hasn’t been offered anything but if he had, and that information was known well enough that someone could post it on a message board, then Stoke are breaking rules and would’ve been reported.
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Those rules haven't been applied for years man. Too easy to get round anyway by talking via third parties, what ifs, speculation etc.

Everyone does it. No-one cares anymore.
 
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Just to underwrite what many others have mentioned on this thread and on other forums re Saudi sports washing there is an article on CaughtOffside this afternoon that the Mags are considering making a loan move for Ruben Neves once he completes his move to Al-Hilal.

Complete pisstske.
 
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Saff said:
I predicted this would happen. Surely the FA have to look into this.

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Absolutely not surprised this might happen and the football authorities only have themselves to blame.

Saying that it's is really easy to prevent with a slight change to the transfer rules but no doubt nothing will be done about it.

Just stop any players over a certain age from being loaned out if they have been purchased within a set time period by another team. That would prevent Saudi from taking the piss with their sports washing which is blatantly what they are doing, but it won't restrict younger players from genuinely being loaned out for development.
 
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marcusblackcat said:
The line in that article where it’s talking about PIF having a stake I’m Chelsea, it says “club sources have rejected suggestions of any direct involvement”

That, in itself, should raise massive alarm bells. The fact that it says “direct” indicates there us some involvement!
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They have 75% stake in 4 Saudi clubs. I mean come on. Any dealings between those clubs and any club in Europe who they own or have an 'indirect' link to, should be banned.
 
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TPFNAC said:
As has happened since Moses was a boy, the buying club have spoken to his agent and laid out pretty much what the offer is.

Yes, it's called tapping up, but it's always happened and always will.

Do you honestly think a buying club put a bid in and hope they can agree personal terms with he player? They will already have the bones of a deal agreed well before submitting a bid
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We managed to agree a deal for Borini mind, then it seems found out the little twat didn't want to come!

But that was us, and that was us then. It happens with almost every transfer.
 
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Daz said:
Absolutely not surprised this might happen and the football authorities only have themselves to blame.

Saying that it's is really easy to prevent with a slight change to the transfer rules but no doubt nothing will be done about it.

Just stop any players over a certain age from being loaned out if they have been purchased within a set time period by another team. That would prevent Saudi from taking the piss with their sports washing which is blatantly what they are doing, but it won't restrict younger players from genuinely being loaned out for development.
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There will always be around it. E.g. with your suggestion Saudi can just buy Neves and give him a £10m signing bonus then immediately sell to Newcastle with no bonus. Voila, Saudi just gave Neves an extra £10m on behalf of Newcastle without the mags having officially paid a penny of it for FFP purposes.
 
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CoolerKing33 said:
Those rules haven't been applied for years man. Too easy to get round anyway by talking via third parties, what ifs, speculation etc.

Everyone does it. No-one cares anymore.
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I never said it doesn’t happen.

I said if it was known enough for someone to post it on here then the club wouldn’t sit back and let it be and we’d have heard about it.

He hasn’t been offered a contract at Stoke.
 
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