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I trust the way our club is being managed, the recruitment and the way we deal with players. They will be well aware of where the discussions with RS sit currently,and will have formed an opinion of the likely outcome. His injury will no doubt be a central issue.
If we were to shortly sign another ready for this league striker alongside Hemir,then I would expect them to negotiate a transfer of RS somewhere near to their valuation,provided he's injury free,sooner rather than later.
Going into next season,this is not last January, and we have time to cover the position very well. I like Ross,I'd be over the moon for him to stay and commit to us,but he's not in any way irreplaceable.
 
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steesafc said:
Shocked to see some still trying to underplay the value Ross Stewart has to this football club mind.

Hes absolutely tireless, he chases lost causes and is always running into the channels which stretches the defence and creates space for the lads playing behind him to operate in and be destructive. Of course he has the handy knack of putting the ball in the net too. Many wondered how he'd adapt to the Championship yet despite a campaign tore apart by two significant injuries he still scored 10 times in 13 games, a couple of those being sub appearances as well!

We eventually adapted to a way of playing without him, but it was no coincidence we were better on the road where typically the initiative was with the home team to be the one pressing and we exploited the spaces left, but as a result of not having Stewart we struggled more than we should have at home because he had nobody to stretch a defence and no legitimate central threat to run in behind. This made it all compact and more often than not led to us having lots of possession in and around the oppo box without necessarily having an end product or any penetration.

To replace what he offers us you're spending well north of £10m. If we can get him signed on to a new deal its undisputedly the best business we'll do all summer. I back him to come back firing.
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.There is no one who doesn't think he is a very good player. But he didn't sign a contract before ge was injured, and hasnt signed one now. No one knows if the deal is still there, but the club have looked after other injured players recently.

He also has had two bad injuries. The achilles is very bad, though he might well be fine.

Up to him. Can't blame him for chasing cash at 27 with a serious injury still ongoing. But he can't be our top priority if we aren't his second.
 
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Coastal Dolphins said:
Not saying you’re wrong but Niall Quinn came back from 2 cruciate Iigament injuries to have a great end to his career and that was 20 plus years ago. Medical advances since I’m sure they will have a fair idea of how RS is doing - hopefully the lad comes back 100% fit.
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Great example, how did I forget that <doh> I do still think it's rare though, I really feel the most likely scenario is that he'll struggle for fitness for the rest of his career and never reach his potential, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out
 
Didn’t the club withdraw the original contract offer when he got himself injured and are seeing how his injury impacts his game? He was keen to sign on our terms offered previously (after his injury of course).

If he still looks the part in the early season then offer the same terms with a deadline of about a week to sign.

If he doesn’t sign, then look to hopefully bring Semedo or the other striker as first choice. Can’t be keeping his match fitness up if he’s looking to move to Stoke.
 
SAFC Wilks said:
Didn’t the club withdraw the original contract offer when he got himself injured and are seeing how his injury impacts his game? He was keen to sign on our terms offered previously (after his injury of course).

If he still looks the part in the early season then offer the same terms with a deadline of about a week to sign.

If he doesn’t sign, then look to hopefully bring Semedo or the other striker as first choice. Can’t be keeping his match fitness up if he’s looking to move to Stoke.
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So much speculation about this one. We don't know if the offer is still on the table or was taken way when he got injured? Can see and argument for both sides from the club, withdrawing the offer will go against the reputation they are wanting to build with players but keeping it on the table for him if he seemed less than enthusiastic before his injury is risky as he may sign it knowing he is not going to come back like he was?

I think it's still there, I just think the lad isn't exactly jumping to sign it! We have signed Crikin and Hume to new contracts in a few weeks, this has been going on for months!

I think Stewart is one of the best strikers we have had at this club, his all round game is fantastic and we could spend £10-15 million and not replace him. But his attitude has to be questioned at this point its clear he has had his head turned. I still think he will give 100% out on the pitch like.

All those saying no way championship clubs can afford £30k a week, I honestly thought that would be the going rate for clubs best players in this league. What do people reckon our wage ceiling is?
 
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TPFNAC said:
As has happened since Moses was a boy, the buying club have spoken to his agent and laid out pretty much what the offer is.

Yes, it's called tapping up, but it's always happened and always will.

Do you honestly think a buying club put a bid in and hope they can agree personal terms with he player? They will already have the bones of a deal agreed well before submitting a bid
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Many times deals have fallen through because personal terms have not been agreed even though clubs have agreed on the fee.
 
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young2077 said:
So much speculation about this one. We don't know if the offer is still on the table or was taken way when he got injured? Can see and argument for both sides from the club, withdrawing the offer will go against the reputation they are wanting to build with players but keeping it on the table for him if he seemed less than enthusiastic before his injury is risky as he may sign it knowing he is not going to come back like he was?

I think it's still there, I just think the lad isn't exactly jumping to sign it! We have signed Crikin and Hume to new contracts in a few weeks, this has been going on for months!

I think Stewart is one of the best strikers we have had at this club, his all round game is fantastic and we could spend £10-15 million and not replace him. But his attitude has to be questioned at this point its clear he has had his head turned. I still think he will give 100% out on the pitch like.

All those saying no way championship clubs can afford £30k a week, I honestly thought that would be the going rate for clubs best players in this league. What do people reckon our wage ceiling is?
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Thing about the wage, is that if they valued him at £10 mill and get him on a free amd on a 4 year deal, its a saving of £2.5m a year (or 48k pw). 30k per week is much cheaper.
 
vinkel said:
Many times deals have fallen through because personal terms have not been agreed even though clubs have agreed on the fee.
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True,

as I said though the initial "we will pay you X a week" will be discussed prior to putting a bid in. It might not be the full warts and all deal, but agents will know what the offers will be from the Buying club
 
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Thing about the wage, is that if they valued him at £10 mill and get him on a free amd on a 4 year deal, its a saving of £2.5m a year (or 48k pw). 30k per week is much cheaper.
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Equally if it is going to cost the club £10 million to lose him on a free or replace him couldn't we give him a bit extra or a signing on bonus that makes up for the difference between us and Stoke etc...?
 
young2077 said:
Equally if it is going to cost the club £10 million to lose him on a free or replace him couldn't we give him a bit extra or a signing on bonus that makes up for the difference between us and Stoke etc...?
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We could, but it may set a precedent they don't want. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying how Stoke might justify their excessive wages.
 
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Milton Nunez's Thong said:
We could, but it may set a precedent they don't want. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying how Stoke might justify their excessive wages.
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That the problem, they would probably give it to him if it could be just him. Even if it's just to extend and then sell him. But they don't want the rest starting asking for similar!
 
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