Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

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When will Suarez leave?

  • Pre-contract, gone 1st day

  • Gone in July

  • Gone in August

  • Gone on transfer deadline day

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PISKIE said:
But neither dismiss the idea that Suarez is angling for a move, which was why you posted the links in the first place.

Whether or not it happens remains to be seen and as Arsenal are the only club who are in for him, if he does go then Arsenal seem like his likely destination. I know you don't want him to go, but ultimately if it comes down to the last day of the window are Liverpool really going to turn down 4Om for a player who simply doesn't want to be there ? It might sound like a good idea to let him rot on the bench out of principal, but at the end of the day, you can use that cash to rebuild and I think that's what the owner and manager will opt for.
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If we sold him that late on, we will struggle to find replacements in such a short space of time unless we panic buy and throw money - i.e. Carroll.

We were probably expecting Real to put in a bid this summer but it hasn't come.

As much as the club have said they don't want to sell to a rival, money talks and we are waiting for a bid of £55m. If Arsenal bid this, then I'm confident we would sell. Selling to a rival for £40m which is massively short of our valuation is not good business. And as we have seen from Suarez during pre-season, he may be unhappy but he still puts in a shift and I expect him to do so over the course of the season should he stay.
 
Look this is REALLY simple... arsenal to go f themselves... Real madrid can have him for 35mil on aug 31.

LFC now have OPTIONS. We have aspas who looked better v olympiakos though thats not fabulous. we have coutinho and sturridge so there is NO reason to go waste the money on the last day if the right guy aint there. It was panic when we were in relegation danger due to hodgson. we didn't back suarez and bought carroll in a flap.

Oh and city and spurs have shown that digging in and knocking sense into a player is good for both parties. Spurs got modric off for the fee they wanted and modric got his grass is not always greener move to real. city held tevez and he crawled back and played a big part in thier league title. just cos they then held him too long doesn't mean anyhting here.

In short LFC need to dig in and hold on til the deal is right. Next summer = WC. If Uruguay are there then this guy will be worth 55mil in the end... someone will pay it no question.
 
PISKIE said:
But neither dismiss the idea that Suarez is angling for a move, which was why you posted the links in the first place.

Whether or not it happens remains to be seen and as Arsenal are the only club who are in for him, if he does go then Arsenal seem like his likely destination. I know you don't want him to go, but ultimately if it comes down to the last day of the window are Liverpool really going to turn down 4Om for a player who simply doesn't want to be there ? It might sound like a good idea to let him rot on the bench out of principal, but at the end of the day, you can use that cash to rebuild and I think that's what the owner and manager will opt for.
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Do you really think our management are blithely ignorant of this scenario and it's going to come as a shock to them on the 31st?
We panicked a bit when Torres left but things have changed now and we're all fully aware of the possibilities.

As mito says above, it seems like we've been quietly building a team to hold it's own with or without Suarez so we won't have our hand forced at the last minute. We might choose to sell him because we consider it good business, but he hasn't got us over a barrel as much as you seem to want to think.
 
PISKIE said:
But neither dismiss the idea that Suarez is angling for a move, which was why you posted the links in the first place.

Whether or not it happens remains to be seen and as Arsenal are the only club who are in for him, if he does go then Arsenal seem like his likely destination. I know you don't want him to go, but ultimately if it comes down to the last day of the window are Liverpool really going to turn down 4Om for a player who simply doesn't want to be there ? It might sound like a good idea to let him rot on the bench out of principal, but at the end of the day, you can use that cash to rebuild and I think that's what the owner and manager will opt for.
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Of course he would like a move to Real Madrid or a similar club.

The Arsenal link is just a mutually-beneficial ploy. Suarez incereases his attractiveness by having a suitor, and Wenger gets to pretend he's willing to spend money. Suarez doesn't really want Arsenal.

I don't care where he goes so long as we get our fifty-two million pounds.

Of course LFC will turn down £40m, it's not even a difficult decision.
 
astroturfnaut said:
Of course he would like a move to Real Madrid or a similar club.

The Arsenal link is just a mutually-beneficial ploy. Suarez incereases his attractiveness by having a suitor, and Wenger gets to pretend he's willing to spend money. Suarez doesn't really want Arsenal.

I don't care where he goes so long as we get our fifty-two million pounds.

Of course LFC will turn down £40m, it's not even a difficult decision.
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If he do not want Arsenal he should shut up.<doh>
 
Rattle snake said:
He is going to lose his own cut of the deal by handing in a transfer request <ok>
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Yes chaps, it was a rhetorical question. My point being that if it's such a 'dream' move, then surely he and and his agent will forego his cut, or get Arsenal to pay it? I do hope that when Luis does go - and he will, let's be frank - the club have the balls to force him to do a written transfer request AND ensure all agents' fees are paid by the buying club. Don't know if we did that over Torres, but we should have done.

Anyone know, by standard, what his agent's cut will be on this deal and who will pay it?
 
donga darko said:
Yes chaps, it was a rhetorical question. My point being that if it's such a 'dream' move, then surely he and and his agent will forego his cut, or get Arsenal to pay it? I do hope that when Luis does go - and he will, let's be frank - the club have the balls to force him to do a written transfer request AND ensure all agents' fees are paid by the buying club. Don't know if we did that over Torres, but we should have done.

Anyone know, by standard, what his agent's cut will be on this deal and who will pay it?
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Guardiola has misinterpreted that he gets 24 goats 15 sheep 100 sacks of grain 10 horses and carts and a virgin, his dowry for marrying off Suarez
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
any quotes with suarez talking... or even his agent.... all there is is press rumours and they can be from anyone.
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"Suarez camp" "source believed to be close to the player" "Those close to Suarez" ect ect. Pretty much magical sources to justify journo "gut feelings" which have been brought on by a cheap lunch at McDonalds

The exact same thing is happening with Rooney at the minute.
 
Sisu said:
"Suarez camp" "source believed to be close to the player" "Those close to Suarez" ect ect. Pretty much magical sources to justify journo "gut feelings" which have been brought on by a cheap lunch at McDonalds

The exact same thing is happening with Rooney at the minute.
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It is, but you'd be naïve to think that these stories are merely down to press hawking. All sides in these situations use the press to get their message out there. Rooney's today about the other players tuning on him, was a prime example, that was 100% put out there deliberately by his camp.
 
PISKIE said:
As Arsenal are the only club who have made a bid and with Suarez angling to force a move, Liverpool's negotiating stance is weakened, and this is why we're seeing the comments from Rodgers about not playing fair. Don't get me wrong, I don't envy his position, he's rightly trying to hang on to his best player, and knowing he wants out, is trying to get the best price for him.

I know, because our club has had to deal with this **** for years, whether it's Utd, City, Barca or Real.
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How do you know that? Maybe the other bidding clubs decided to keep it discreet <whistle>
 
Tobes said:
It is, but you'd be naïve to think that these stories are merely down to press hawking. All sides in these situations use the press to get their message out there. Rooney's today about the other players tuning on him, was a prime example, that was 100% put out there deliberately by his camp.
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True that but.. which are true and which are not? a difficult question to answer.

I do not doubt that Wenger was told there was a clause, that did not exist. Only Guardiola could have put that out there, but it is not impossible he did it of his own accord
 
Sisu said:
True that but.. which are true and which are not? a difficult question to answer.

I do not doubt that Wenger was told there was a clause, that did not exist. Only Guardiola could have put that out there, but it is not impossible he did it of his own accord
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I think the salient point is that very few of the mainstream sports journo's simply make **** up. They're fed it by numerous sources, who have vastly varied agendas.

In these major transfer wrangles there's agents, managers, club PR people, players & even board members feeding the hacks!
 
Tobes said:
I think the salient point is that very few of the mainstream sports journo's simply make **** up. They're fed it by numerous sources, who have vastly varied agendas.

In these major transfer wrangles there's agents, managers, club PR people, players & even board members feeding the hacks!
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Which only goes to show just how poor the standard of journalism is on our sports pages.
 
Foredeckdave said:
Which only goes to show just how poor the standard of journalism is on our sports pages.
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Not really, the sports media rely on the participants in order to fill their back pages, the participants use the media to their own ends - it's a symbiotic relationship. No amount of 'journalism' will change the status quo either, as it suits all concerned.
 
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