Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

[Dangerously Delicious]

I think Arsenal are becoming a bit obsessed about this. It's as though they think Suarez is definitely the one thing they need to make them title contenders and must have him.
Suarez is a great player and great entertainment value but if they think he's the Messiah I think they might be in for a rude awakening.

There's also the possibility that this coming season for him might not be as epic as the one just gone. In one sense that's a good thing but for all we know his feet might not be firing the same. Cue inevitable Monty Python quote: 'He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!'

 

[Batmoanu]

"Yes we did bid 12.5mill for Suarez and ended up paying nearly double. So there's your answer,increase the bid to £70 million and you might have more success."

Well said, we might have played games, but at least we had the decency to match Ajax's valuation when I think it was their manager complained we were nowhere near. Arsene seems intent to want to get him at £20million+ below his value.

£40M is his value. By bidding an extra pound we have already gone over the odds. We will probably have to pay £50M to sign him although you never know, it might be less as many outlets are now claiming he is preparing legal action against LFC and the Guardian are claiming he will not travel to Norway as he picked up a mystery injury vs Olympiakos (was able to train today though ).

 

[saintanton]

There's also the possibility that this coming season for him might not be as epic as the one just gone. In one sense that's a good thing but for all we know his feet might not be firing the same. Cue inevitable Monty Python quote: 'He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!'

No doubt about that.

 

[DirtyFrank]

How many times does it have to be said. You were scooped not based on the idea that there was speculation in the press about a release clause, not even that you offered a very very specific amount.

It Was the fact that it was the wrong amount based on the wrong interpretation of the clause by his agent.

Not only underhand but uselessly so. You're like Dr Evil and his one million dollars. All we did was laugh at you. Now you're doing the equivalent of running around telling everyone the big boys in red are mean.Awh Shucks

 

[Dangerously Delicious]

£40M is his value. By bidding an extra pound we have already gone over the odds. We will probably have to pay £50M to sign him although you never know, it might be less as many outlets are now claiming he is preparing legal action against LFC and the Guardian are claiming he will not travel to Norway as he picked up a mystery injury vs Olympiakos (was able to train today though ).

You're definitely on a wind up mission. When in the modern transfer market does a club's opening bid (especially for a big player) ever land that player? The first bid is the beginning of negotiations where the fee goes one way, up.

 

[Diego]

How many times does it have to be said. You were scooped not based on the idea that there was speculation in the press about a release clause, not even that you offered a very very specific amount.

It Was the fact that it was the wrong amount based on the wrong interpretation of the clause by his agent.

Not only underhand but uselessly so. You're like Dr Evil and his one million dollars. All we did was laugh at you. Now you're doing the equivalent of running around telling everyone the big boys in red are mean.Awh Shucks

ESPN think Arsenal have been given permission to speak with him, maybe the clause has been mis-interpreted by pool?

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/227775.html?genre=1;sport=3

 

[Diego]

You're definitely on a wind up mission. When in the modern transfer market does a club's opening bid (especially for a big player) ever land that player? The first bid is the beginning of negotiations where the fee goes one way, up.

I think the first bid was £35mil.

 

[Dangerously Delicious]

I think the first bid was £35mil.

So it was, my bad, haven't really been following this **** to be honest. Just want it to end!

 

[saintanton]

ESPN think Arsenal have been given permission to speak with him, maybe the clause has been mis-interpreted by pool?

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/227775.html?genre=1;sport=3

Well, that's conclusive then.

 

[Diego]

Well, that's conclusive then.

They probably know as much if not more than anyone on these boards

 

[PINKIE]

You're like Dr Evil and his one million dollars. All we did was laugh at you. Now you're doing the equivalent of running around telling everyone the big boys in red are mean.Awh Shucks

Just as a point of accuracy though, it has been Rodgers who has been running around bleating about Arsenal not playing fair

 

[Foredeckdave]

£40M is his value. By bidding an extra pound we have already gone over the odds. We will probably have to pay £50M to sign him although you never know, it might be less as many outlets are now claiming he is preparing legal action against LFC and the Guardian are claiming he will not travel to Norway as he picked up a mystery injury vs Olympiakos (was able to train today though ).

£40M or £40M+1 CANNOT be his value because neither figure was accepted .

 

[Foredeckdave]

Just as a point of accuracy though, it has been Rodgers who has been running around bleating about Arsenal not playing fair

Perhaps that is because Arsenal were stupid enough to make a specific bid so as to trigger a clause that they could only know about via one of the parties to the contract - and we know that would not have been LFC. Perhaps because Wenger is still trying to insinuate that negotiations are on-going when in fact there never have been any negotiations.

 

[saintanton]

They probably know as much if not more than anyone on these boards

Exactly.

 

[Diego]

£40M or £40M+1 CANNOT be his value because neither figure was accepted .

The value is set by the buying club, if Arsenal walk away at £40mil+1 then you are stuck with a very unhappy player who does not want to be there and nobody else seems remotely interested. I guess you could say Liverpool value him more than Arsenal though.

 

[Foredeckdave]

The value is set by the buying club, if Arsenal walk away at £40mil+1 then you are stuck with a very unhappy player who does not want to be there and nobody else seems remotely interested. I guess you could say Liverpool value him more than Arsenal though.

The VALUE is set by the agreement of both clubs. Now if we are stuck with a very unhappy player then that's LFC's problem - not yours and not mine and certainly not Arsenal's

 

[Diego]

Perhaps that is because Arsenal were stupid enough to make a specific bid so as to trigger a clause that they could only know about via one of the parties to the contract - and we know that would not have been LFC. Perhaps because Wenger is still trying to insinuate that negotiations are on-going when in fact there never have been any negotiations.

ESPN seem to think Arsenal have been given permission to talk to Suarez!

 

[Diego]

The VALUE is set by the agreement of both clubs. Now if we are stuck with a very unhappy player then that's LFC's problem - not yours and not mine and certainly not Arsenal's

Agreed

 

[saintanton]

The value is set by the buying club, if Arsenal walk away at £40mil+1 then you are stuck with a very unhappy player who does not want to be there and nobody else seems remotely interested. I guess you could say Liverpool value him more than Arsenal though.

Honestly, why do people keep banging on about this?
Why not wait and see what happens rather than pretending you're Mystic Meg?

 

[PINKIE]

The value is set by the buying club, if Arsenal walk away at £40mil+1 then you are stuck with a very unhappy player who does not want to be there and nobody else seems remotely interested. I guess you could say Liverpool value him more than Arsenal though.

As Arsenal are the only club who have made a bid and with Suarez angling to force a move, Liverpool's negotiating stance is weakened, and this is why we're seeing the comments from Rodgers about not playing fair. Don't get me wrong, I don't envy his position, he's rightly trying to hang on to his best player, and knowing he wants out, is trying to get the best price for him.

I know, because our club has had to deal with this **** for years, whether it's Utd, City, Barca or Real.