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As You Were said:
No you’re missing the point. We were told by stewart donald Sartori would be fantastic for this club. What was his quote something like ‘ he can get investment just by talking to people during a family dinner’ and how did that work out? It was bullshit.If you want to get carried away again go ahead. You might know quite a lot about the future plans but I don’t. But ask yourself this. How many 22 year olds run football clubs??? We are now being told by Gordon Armstrong he won’t be running it. So basically the same people are going to be running the club who have ran it the past two year. The only difference is now we have another shareholder who POTENTIALLY has some good contacts we can use. So let me sum things up for you. Sartori is well connected. We have seen no benefit. We have American billionaires who have invested in us. No benefit. We need people who want to run the club and do it well. Like i’ve said previously the managerial situation will be the big indicator if things have really changed.If you want to drink champagne by all means do but you might be being a touch naive .Lets wait and see. If we appoint and ambitious manager with a good reputation I will start drinking champagne with you but getting overly excited and carried away when we have know little is just as stupid as people saying it’s all a load of rubbish.
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Seen this argument a lot. Sartori has had no impact as he’s been a minority shareholder. If he becomes a majority one that may be different.

And KLD isn’t going to buy a club and then ask somebody the fans hate to run the club for him when he could pay anybody to do it.
 
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As You Were said:
No you’re missing the point. We were told by stewart donald Sartori would be fantastic for this club. What was his quote something like ‘ he can get investment just by talking to people during a family dinner’ and how did that work out? It was bullshit.If you want to get carried away again go ahead. You might know quite a lot about the future plans but I don’t. But ask yourself this. How many 22 year olds run football clubs??? We are now being told by Gordon Armstrong he won’t be running it. So basically the same people are going to be running the club who have ran it the past two year. The only difference is now we have another shareholder who POTENTIALLY has some good contacts we can use. So let me sum things up for you. Sartori is well connected. We have seen no benefit. We have American billionaires who have invested in us. No benefit. We need people who want to run the club and do it well. Like i’ve said previously the managerial situation will be the big indicator if things have really changed.If you want to drink champagne by all means do but you might be being a touch naive .Lets wait and see. If we appoint and ambitious manager with a good reputation I will start drinking champagne with you but getting overly excited and carried away when we have know little is just as stupid as people saying it’s all a load of rubbish.
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I'm not reading past the first line tbh.

You're quoting a man who claimed his daughter was kidnapped but didn't call the police <laugh>
 
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Southern Adam said:
nixon has said he’ll stay involved - not that he’ll have major influence
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I have some shares in Standard Life - I get to Vote at the AGM - am I involved yes do I have a major influence no.

Shareholder appoint directors to run the business day to day and that's why the appointment of a sporting director is key to this. The new money men are going to want the best they can get.

SD from the outset was going to sell up as soon as possible so he wanted all his people in situ so they all were working for this aim.
 
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MadMackem said:
I just find it odd that based on armstrongs claims the current shareholders would still hold a majority yet there is going to be total change including a new board and new man running the club. Sounds more like decisions made by an incoming new majority shareholder.
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I think it's very likely that the current owners combined will have more than 50%. Ultimately though, Donald and Methven are still irrelevant unless they can get Sartori to agree with them. Sartori will know how badly we've been ran thus far, so I don't think he'll be going against KLD very regularly. This is especially the case if they agree that a Sporting Director should be hired. Get the right person and they'd be pulling the strings, there's not much reason why the others would club together to cause an issue.

The main problem we've had with Donald is penny pinching and cashing in on academy products because he didn't want to spend money. That shouldn't be an issue if 80% of the club is owned by billionaires . The other main problem has been recruitment, which the sporting director should address. And the manager which you'd imagine would also be resolved. If it happens its a positive regardless of share percentage as long as Donald does drop to around 15%. The big one for me, in addition to the people brought in, is what happens to the loan, I'm not convinced FPP will be completely out of the picture
 
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Mackem 10.1 said:
Not sure why people take any notice of nixon, just look his twitter, he gives the most vague guess work answers everytime someone asks him a question about any club
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He is normally okay with Sunderland news to be honest and alluded to Sartoris mate being the one for possible investment months ago (Dreyfus).
 
If this is true (big if) then no one person would have a majority would they?

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I'm no financial/business expert but if there is anything that the last 2 years have taught me it's that Donald is tight as **** and likes to employ his mates (Reid, Fox, Rodwell, Hill). Once the appointment of the sporting director is confirmed I think it will be very evident who is pulling the strings, and I doubt it will be Donald or Methven. I'm choosing to be positive and expecting a massive culture change at the club.
Life is too short to be negative all the time. KTF
 
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So Nixon is suggesting the share split will be roughly KLD - 40% ; JS - 40% ; Donald / Methven - 20% between them.

That will definitely mean that a substantial group of fans will see KLD as the minority.

For the sake of harmony of the fans we could really do with a clear and unarguable statement that KLD is THE guy. Hopefully this announcement due this week will show that things are very different as prehab hopes. Then we are rocking!
 
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Southern Adam said:
So Nixon is suggesting the share split will be roughly KLD - 40% ; JS - 40% ; Donald / Methven - 20% between them.

That will definitely mean that a substantial group of fans will see KLD as the minority.

For the sake of harmony of the fans we could really do with a clear and unarguable statement that KLD is THE guy. Hopefully this announcement due this week will show that things are very different as prehab hopes. Then we are rocking!
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Nixon is a Mag Wum ffs ....

... Anne Frank left her bedroom more often <doh>
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Nixon is a Mag Wum ffs ....

... Anne Frank left her bedroom more often <doh>
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he seems mostly right about us to be Frank (no pun). And whilst he’s normally vague and can be taken with a pinch of salt, I think I may have prompted the longest tweet he’s ever written :D
 
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