S.A.F.C. - the future

[JHmackem]

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Interviewing for the Sporting Director role. Not sure I'm particularly happy at the prospect of them also buying Atletico River Plate, I'd rather their full focus was on us. Unless the plan is that Sartori runs River Plate, and Kyril/Sporting Director us?

 

[Glencoe]

I’m in the Poyet camp too. from my point of view, he had a style of play that he wanted to stick with and he has said he wanted that throughout the club. He also has said that he identified players to bring in but Congerton brought in different players. I’d have him back in a heartbeat if he was allowed to do things the way he wanted without having a power struggle with a DOF who didn’t share his ideas. The whole club needs to be pulling in the same direction for it to become successful and I like what I hear from Poyet when he talks about how he wanted his tenure to work

I'd have Poyet back in a heartbeat, the football we played at times was the best I've seen then the following season he wasn't backed in the transfer market.

Whatever possessed Congerton to sign Rodwell remains up there with the grassy knoll and area 51.

What you describe above re what Poyet wanted and what he got sounds like the Fast Show type of sketch where his wife asks him to get a loaf of bread and milk and he comes back with clogs and 200 pegs instead.

 

[Peterleeyacker]

mm hm.

Being played "out of position" is one thing, like for instance playing a GK as striker, however, everything else is pretty much basics. Yes I know all about position specifics. I'm talking about basics. Body shape to receive, receive safe side or on on foot front, quality of first touch, first touch forward, inside or back?, am I aware of what's happening around me, do I know what I'm going to do next? decision to pass, cross or shoot? type of pass, cross or shot?

Billy Shankly
Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.

It doesn't have to be complicated

Not a dig at you @Peterleeyacker.

I don't take this as a dig at me.

But the ball constantly being played behind a players of mediocre ability has a negative effect on the flow of football being played.
Also the fact we give the ball away gifts possession to the other team. Playing players in the wrong place and being unable to play the ball infront or to feet is what can I say. ****ing ****e.. This comes across as obvious but it where we are.

 

[Sandy Camel]

mm hm.

Being played "out of position" is one thing, like for instance playing a GK as striker, however, everything else is pretty much basics. Yes I know all about position specifics. I'm talking about basics. Body shape to receive, receive safe side or on on foot front, quality of first touch, first touch forward, inside or back?, am I aware of what's happening around me, do I know what I'm going to do next? decision to pass, cross or shoot? type of pass, cross or shot?

Billy Shankly
Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.

It doesn't have to be complicated

Not a dig at you @Peterleeyacker.

@Peterleeyacker is right with what he said about players being played out of position making a difference to a team's perfomance though and that has nowt to with basics. It's about knowing how to play your position correctly at different stages of the game and that isn't something you learn after a game or two.

 

[alan reed]

I don't take this as a dig at me.

But the ball constantly being played behind a players of mediocre ability has a negative effect on the flow of football being played.
Also the fact we give the ball away gifts possession to the other team. Playing players in the wrong place and being unable to play the ball infront or to feet is what can I say. ****ing ****e.. This comes across as obvious but it where we are.

all the players today were in the wrong place, as the pitch is not for them. absolute shambles, no passion on show nobody busting a gut to get us back into the game. and a manager who hasn't got a clue.

 

[Bozwellboyce]

You're a footballer.

You have just lost yet another game you should have won, and you know - because you have been here a bit and this losing habit has emerged before - that you are going to lose again next time out unless you get a lift of some kind.

So, on Monday, you turn up for training and you hope the boss is ready to sort it out, and when you get there, it's bloody Phil Parkinson again.

It's like finding a cold poached egg in your pocket, or last week's rubbish being put back in your bin on a Thursday. You'll plod along and keep going a bit to pay your own bills, but really, this is not the place you want to be.

That's where we are now. Owners who are not fit to run a tyre franchise, ordinary players who are taking what they can, and a manager who is just standing there and waiting for someone to pay him to sod off.

This man has no business contaminating a proper football club. If he was gone five minutes ago it would be too late.

If there was ever a time we needed change this was it.

Or..... you go out on Monday (having watched the video of the game) having realised your control was absolute bollocks, your second touch got you a yellow card and you never managed to make one pass to the team playing in the same colour tops as you. So, you make a mental note to yourself to get better and take it upon yourself to go out into the street (or mansion) and spend a few hours (or days in some instances) smashing a ball off the gable end of an understanding neighbour trying to sort it out.

Players need to stand up and be counted.

THEY ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE

 

[ab65]

Steward Donald is a sleeping shareholder no influence. Major plans incoming...the future is very bright...these guys are very serious needs us all to get behind.

I can't tell you how excited I am...things are going to change for the better...what any doubters say...this is a new dawn for SAFC.

FTM

Splendid stuff mate.

 

[Bozwellboyce]

We played some amazing football under Poyet. It went a bit weird but before that it was good it was amazing at times. Utd away was the best I’ve seen us. I also thought we played good football under Keane. The club was just a bit disjointed when Poyet was here. I’d have him back like.

Agreed. But we played some utter ****e as well

 

[rowley]

Or..... you go out on Monday (having watched the video of the game) having realised your control was absolute bollocks, your second touch got you a yellow card and you never managed to make one pass to the team playing in the same colour tops as you. So, you make a mental note to yourself to get better and take it upon yourself to go out into the street (or mansion) and spend a few hours (or days in some instances) smashing a ball off the gable end of an understanding neighbour trying to sort it out.

Players need to stand up and be counted.

THEY ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE

Yes of course they are. Fair enough.

But whether we like it or not, and I don't, players need a leader. Demonstrably we do not have one.

 

[ab65]

A post on RTG I’ve just seen


‘So, between Sartori and Kyril, as well being billionaires in their own right will have direct family links to the Louis-Dreyfus Group (soon to be 45% owned by an Abu Dhabi sovereign wealth fund). Kyril’s stepfather is vice chairman of Blackrock, the largest Asset Management company in the world (over $7 trillion on their books), he’s also an ex-head of the Swiss Central Bank. Juan’s FIL is an oligarch worth over $6 billion.’

Well, seeing as how you put it like that, I’ll have another beer.

 

[Oliver's Army]

Interviewing for the Sporting Director role. Not sure I'm particularly happy at the prospect of them also buying Atletico River Plate, I'd rather their full focus was on us. Unless the plan is that Sartori runs River Plate, and Kyril/Sporting Director us?

The article says sartori and dreyfus are interested in the south american club, doesn't say it's connected to the safc deal in any way. Could be a separate transaction all together

 

[Glencoe]

@Peterleeyacker is right with what he said about players being played out of position making a difference to a team's perfomance though and that has nowt to with basics. It's about knowing how to play your position correctly at different stages of the game and that isn't something you learn after a game or two.

Reidy's great Sunderland team instantly looked poorer when Kevin Kilbane played, that was only one player but it impacted on that whole team. 3 or 4 players out or position, you can't get away with that.

 

[Bozwellboyce]

I don't take this as a dig at me.

But the ball constantly being played behind a players of mediocre ability has a negative effect on the flow of football being played.
Also the fact we give the ball away gifts possession to the other team. Playing players in the wrong place and being unable to play the ball infront or to feet is what can I say. ****ing ****e.. This comes across as obvious but it where we are.

Absolutely - but giving the ball way has f..k all to do with the manager (unless of course he's played 10 goalkeepers as outfield players?? no offence meant to goalkeepers of course); Or... the manager said, "pass the ball to the opposition, so we can lull them into a false sense of security".

I've watched the game(s), I've already stated I'm confused about the style of play/substitutions etc. BUT; it rests with the players to work it out.

 

[JHmackem]

The article says sartori and dreyfus are interested in the south american club, doesn't say it's connected to the safc deal in any way. Could be a separate transaction all together

I figured it was separate, I would just prefer their attention was on us rather than multiple clubs.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Hey, we're starting to get mentions on L’Equipe in France. I used to read it when we had French players so get pop up alerts on my phone now and again. Might have to order the paper now.

Theres been a few today about the takeover.

I'll have a proper look, on the computer in the morning, had a few too many tonight

 

[Turtle]

Hey, we're starting to get mentions on L’Equipe in France.

Interesting details coming out. Potential sporting directors interviewed and rumours of the consortium purchasing another club in South America... not sure how the later is of any benefit to Sunderland

 

[Alebeac]

Hey, we're starting to get mentions on L’Equipe in France.

Never thought I would see that day.

 

[Oliver's Army]

I figured it was separate, I would just prefer their attention was on us rather than multiple clubs.

It won't be them directly, it will be different advisors/legal people I reckon

 

[Sandy Camel]

Reidy's great Sunderland team instantly looked poorer when Kevin Kilbane played, that was only one player but it impacted on that whole team. 3 or 4 players out or position, you can't get away with that.

Gooch isn't a wing back in a million years and O'Nien is never a centre half. Boils me seeing this kind of decision being made when it's not needed. I understand we're bit short at the back but how about changing the set up and playing a flat back four so we only need two centre halfs with Hume and O'Nien as fullbacks and Gooch further up the pitch out wide. At least we'd have players in positions they're familiar and comfortable with.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Interesting details coming out. Potential sporting directors interviewed and rumours of the consortium purchasing another club in South America... not sure how the later is of any benefit to Sunderland

This is more like it, stuff you can get your teeth into. They reported on STID and seemed quite complimentary.

They're usually pretty accurate with English clubs, a bit 'tabloid' with their own ...

... but you probably know that.