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Dark days indeed mate but I think it can change
A progressive manger and owner who understand and thrive on the goldfish bowl atmosphere
Give us something to be proud of instead of blaming the fans for their own inadequacy
Sunderland fans in general don't ask for much to be honest

That's the thing I hate most at the moment the owner and his lackies blaming the fans for putting pressure on the players and driving away investors
Effectively blaming the fans for having pride and passion for the club

46000 at a game in the third tier for God sake only these fools could turn that into a negative.

Double 'like' mate ...

... one for the post and another for your last point, nailed it.
 
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Yes, without doubt and still a good buy but I'm just questioning the poster saying it was only a couple of players short, it's a much bigger fix than that required.

I think he meant getting out of this league. I agree with you that there are very few in the current squad who could cut it in the Championship. Income would be a little greater if we were to get up, so we could use that, and we may attract a bigger sponsorship deal. Other than that, whoever takes over will need to spend in order for us to consolidate in the next flight. I think reaching the Premier will take a lot longer than some people think.
 
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Failed at Eastleigh, failing at Sunderland, we'll end up midtable for the conceivable future until these chancers bog off

If we'd continued doing what we were doing, I would agree 100% with you, but they have got rid of Huey and Duey in the recruitment department, and we now seem to be looking for round pegs to fit the round holes, so that is more encouraging.
I think we would have a few more over the line if it hadn't been for this Salary cap issue, and it's noticeable that no one seems to be strengthening to any great extent.

MacAnthony at Peterborough always says he likes to get his business done early in the window, but even they haven't added any great numbers. Everyone (managers, players and agents) seem to be waiting to see if this cap will be declared void before determining their spending budget.
 
It'll be one of them book of quotes
"The big book of Donaldisms and Methven Condescensions". Amaze yourself with the downright lies, self contradicting sentences, and blame shifting buzzwords our Lords and Masters have brought us in their two seasons running our club. Could be a best seller on Wearside this Xmas
 
That's a very good point.

I've really supported my club for 50 years and lost jobs, girlfriends and a fortune in the process but it's always been worthwhile.

But this is 'the perfect storm' at the moment because our ultimate prize would be to get back to an annual struggle to stay in the PL just as it is for most of the clubs there.

Seriously, what is the point of even being Everton, a club we've rarely matched in my time. They're making up the numbers and they know it.

Only clubs with wealthy foreign owners will ever win anything, they barely have to break sweat to win the cups and swallow up the best young talent like a woodchipper in a windstorm. Players think nothing of waving their enormous earnings in our faces and will kiss any badge they happen to have on their current shirt.

Clubs like ours are bought by chancers with no connection with us or love for us. It's all just words, endless words until it goes wrong and the words stop.

So ffs someone flthy rich buy us so, like Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea fans, we can all pretend we played our part.

Sadly the supporters, these days, are told their money is a pittance that counts for little compared to telly money. They're told their support puts pressure on players who can't cope with it. Not really sure why we're needed any more tbh, the TV companies put up cut outs and backdrops that have more life than some of the crowds these days. The piped in fake crowd noise sounds out of place when it's a match from the Emirates or SJP.

Perhaps this crisis has taught us that some things are more important than football ...

... I never thought I'd see the day <laugh>

10 out of 10 post mate.

I can’t believe that for the first time in as long as I can remember I haven’t renewed. Simply put I have fallen out of love with the club and despise the people in charge. hopefully things can change soon because simply put SAFC have played a massive part of my life and living in north tyneside for most of it hasn’t always made it easy!!

fFingers crossed CM and SD get out soon.
 
6 from mine

3 from mine. Not going back until it’s full capacity allowed (will pick and choose games as and when I fancy) or them two bastards and their cronies have ****ed as far away from our club as possible.

First time in 15 years all three of us haven't renewed. Killed me not doing it, but I just can’t for the life of me knowingly line that odious little toad’s pockets.
 
That's a very good point.

I've really supported my club for 50 years and lost jobs, girlfriends and a fortune in the process but it's always been worthwhile.

But this is 'the perfect storm' at the moment because our ultimate prize would be to get back to an annual struggle to stay in the PL just as it is for most of the clubs there.

Seriously, what is the point of even being Everton, a club we've rarely matched in my time. They're making up the numbers and they know it.

Only clubs with wealthy foreign owners will ever win anything, they barely have to break sweat to win the cups and swallow up the best young talent like a woodchipper in a windstorm. Players think nothing of waving their enormous earnings in our faces and will kiss any badge they happen to have on their current shirt.

Clubs like ours are bought by chancers with no connection with us or love for us. It's all just words, endless words until it goes wrong and the words stop.

So ffs someone flthy rich buy us so, like Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea fans, we can all pretend we played our part.

Sadly the supporters, these days, are told their money is a pittance that counts for little compared to telly money. They're told their support puts pressure on players who can't cope with it. Not really sure why we're needed any more tbh, the TV companies put up cut outs and backdrops that have more life than some of the crowds these days. The piped in fake crowd noise sounds out of place when it's a match from the Emirates or SJP.

Perhaps this crisis has taught us that some things are more important than football ...

... I never thought I'd see the day <laugh>


I'm not standing up but if I was, that post would deserve a raucous round of applause. Spot on.
 
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That's a very good point.

I've really supported my club for 50 years and lost jobs, girlfriends and a fortune in the process but it's always been worthwhile.

But this is 'the perfect storm' at the moment because our ultimate prize would be to get back to an annual struggle to stay in the PL just as it is for most of the clubs there.

Seriously, what is the point of even being Everton, a club we've rarely matched in my time. They're making up the numbers and they know it.

Only clubs with wealthy foreign owners will ever win anything, they barely have to break sweat to win the cups and swallow up the best young talent like a woodchipper in a windstorm. Players think nothing of waving their enormous earnings in our faces and will kiss any badge they happen to have on their current shirt.

Clubs like ours are bought by chancers with no connection with us or love for us. It's all just words, endless words until it goes wrong and the words stop.

So ffs someone flthy rich buy us so, like Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea fans, we can all pretend we played our part.

Sadly the supporters, these days, are told their money is a pittance that counts for little compared to telly money. They're told their support puts pressure on players who can't cope with it. Not really sure why we're needed any more tbh, the TV companies put up cut outs and backdrops that have more life than some of the crowds these days. The piped in fake crowd noise sounds out of place when it's a match from the Emirates or SJP.

Perhaps this crisis has taught us that some things are more important than football ...

... I never thought I'd see the day <laugh>
Well said!
 
That's a very good point.

I've really supported my club for 50 years and lost jobs, girlfriends and a fortune in the process but it's always been worthwhile.

But this is 'the perfect storm' at the moment because our ultimate prize would be to get back to an annual struggle to stay in the PL just as it is for most of the clubs there.

Seriously, what is the point of even being Everton, a club we've rarely matched in my time. They're making up the numbers and they know it.

Only clubs with wealthy foreign owners will ever win anything, they barely have to break sweat to win the cups and swallow up the best young talent like a woodchipper in a windstorm. Players think nothing of waving their enormous earnings in our faces and will kiss any badge they happen to have on their current shirt.

Clubs like ours are bought by chancers with no connection with us or love for us. It's all just words, endless words until it goes wrong and the words stop.

So ffs someone flthy rich buy us so, like Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea fans, we can all pretend we played our part.

Sadly the supporters, these days, are told their money is a pittance that counts for little compared to telly money. They're told their support puts pressure on players who can't cope with it. Not really sure why we're needed any more tbh, the TV companies put up cut outs and backdrops that have more life than some of the crowds these days. The piped in fake crowd noise sounds out of place when it's a match from the Emirates or SJP.

Perhaps this crisis has taught us that some things are more important than football ...

... I never thought I'd see the day <laugh>
Once a filthy rich buyer does come in, then it's just TV money after that, agreed, but the it's the amount of fans that care so deeply about SAFC where we do play a real part - even if just making us interesting to a buyer in the first place. I realize that more fans just means more money to the investor and ultimately we would just become something else on TV, but the only reason I can see why Sunderland is still kicking around in the 'big club' conversation among billionaires, despite the years and years of underachievement, is the fans still being here, despite everything over the years. I don't just mean now - i mean all of it - all the relegations, the stagnation in the 90s before Reid, the previous 3rd division nightmare, always losing at Wembley, all of it.
 
Evening All. I didn't want to start a thread just to simply say hello, so seeing as this is a very popular thread I thought I'd jump in here. New to all this so don't really know what to expect. Had thought of signing up over the road but if you're new over there you're accused of being a Mag etc. I'm in no way a mag. Sunderland supporter all my natch, season ticket holder, highs (not many) and lows. So hello everyone.
 
I'd just like to say that Nick Barnes is what he is.
Once a filthy rich buyer does come in, then it's just TV money after that, agreed, but the it's the amount of fans that care so deeply about SAFC where we do play a real part - even if just making us interesting to a buyer in the first place. I realize that more fans just means more money to the investor and ultimately we would just become something else on TV, but the only reason I can see why Sunderland is still kicking around in the 'big club' conversation among billionaires, despite the years and years of underachievement, is the fans still being here, despite everything over the years. I don't just mean now - i mean all of it - all the relegations, the stagnation in the 90s before Reid, the previous 3rd division nightmare, always losing at Wembley, all of it.
Evening All. I didn't want to start a thread just to simply say hello, so seeing as this is a very popular thread I thought I'd jump in here. New to all this so don't really know what to expect. Had thought of signing up over the road but if you're new over there you're accused of being a Mag etc. I'm in no way a mag. Sunderland supporter all my natch, season ticket holder, highs (not many) and lows. So hello everyone.

99% of people, on here, are just decent ordinary Sunderland supporters who chat about the club ...

... anyone causing bother usually just vanishes without trace.

Hope you enjoy it on here.
 
I'd just like to say that Nick Barnes is what he is.



99% of people, on here, are just decent ordinary Sunderland supporters who chat about the club ...

... anyone causing bother usually just vanishes without trace.

Hope you enjoy it on here.
Thank you Mr Smug. I've looked in from a far for a while now to size things up and it seems a good place to chat. Obviously I'll have my options on all things on Sunderland and will get more involved as I find my feet. Thank you for the brief summary mate.
 
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