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Reasons for changing the name

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DMD, Sep 22, 2013.

  1. Boothferry2Wembley

    Boothferry2Wembley Well-Known Member

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    If I could see benefits for something I did not really want or believe in, I may not wish to share them on a public forum.
     
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  2. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    NO.. you started this thread as a challenge to anyone that isn't as much against the name change as you are!

    does it make you feel like more of a fan to argue them down so that they end up having your point of view?
     
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  3. DMD

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    Why? Surely discussing the benefits is important as it gives an opportunity to consider associated factors that could make it less attractive or alternatively, it could help us realise why it's being done and we could move forward in full support of it?
     
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  4. DMD

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    Nope, by pure coincidence the post I was sending (see above) as you typed that shows your opinion to be wrong. <ok>
     
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  5. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    OK what are the negatives?

    I have stated the 3 possible positives?
    I have trawled the threads against name change, and it's ALL emotive bullshit
     
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  6. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    but I am not in full support.
    any of your sentimental arguments are not relevant in a business setting
     
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  7. Boothferry2Wembley

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    I am not in favour of the name change, I am not going to protest against it. I do not feel the need to offer any views on potential benefits. You need that from the pro change lobby, which do not actually exist in any kind of numbers.
     
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  8. PattyNchips2

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    I will sit back and watch with interest as to what AA will do.
     
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  9. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    opinions are never wrong.. they are just that.. opinions
    that is very arrogant of you to say that your opinion trumps mine.
     
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  10. CANADATIGER

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    Well as an old person who'll be "dying off soon" and has already been called "senile" and a "disgusting stick insect" by OLM I'd like to repeat that I'm actually in favour of the name change for the simple reason that "Hull Tigers" does in fact reflect our "heritage" far more than the "Hull City AFC" does. For over 100 years we've been known as "The Tigers" by both local supporters and those around the world. As a supporter for 65 years I, and I believe most of those of my vintage, have referred to our team as "the Tigers". Including "Tigers" as part of our official name reflects reality and our heritage.

    I also believe that incorporating "Tigers" will be a big marketing plus, in apparel sales for example as well as name recognition, as we become better known throughout Asia in particular, where the tiger is a massive symbol, and the Middle East given our incipient fan base in Egypt. I'm sure that this is what the Allams have in mind. The name change could be hugely important in their search for the substantial foreign investment needed to take us to the next level, whereas Hull City AFC has absolutely no resonance.

    Ok OLM...hit me with your best shot mate. Since I'm senile it'll probably go right over my head :laugh:
     
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  11. PattyNchips2

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    ah yes but you aren't an emotive dinosaur.
     
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  12. CANADATIGER

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    Gee thanks...but what's it mean :laugh:
     
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  13. juleskaren

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    IF we gain anything by selling Hull Tigers shirts overseas this will be outweighed by the loss of not being able to sell Hull Tigers shirts or merchandise to our own supporters because I for one would not buy one. As for attracting foreign money, I would much rather Allam could find someone in this country to invest but as he has not come across very well in any interview he has given this doesn't seem likely. How can anyone take him as a serious business man when you watch or read his interviews. I know he has built up his own business but it is something he knows about whereas he freely admits he knows not a lot about football. Does anyone know if the other Tigers for instance the rugby club are reaping in benefits in the far east because of their name. It will still be Manchester United and Chelsea etc who appeal because they are successful on the pitch. Maybe our Egyptian not 606 contributors could tell us if they think the name change will bring in more wealth.
     
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  14. CANADATIGER

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    One simple answer to that...

    Asian/Mid East/African market....3+ billion people

    Local supporters....100,000???
     
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  15. PattyNchips2

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    I meant that you aren't emotionally stunted and stuck in the past.
     
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  16. DMD

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    When you offer an opinion on the reasons I started the thread, you can be and in deed were wrong in that opinion.
     
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  17. Willson

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    One simple answer to that, percentage of those people that have; electricity, TV, Cable subscription, Interest in football, interest in a team with no asian players, interest in a team that will not challenge for the title in the near future, ability to come to games and enough money to buy City merch... 0.0000001%
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    Exactly.

    Cardiff have changed their kit colour and their club badge to increase their appeal in Malaysia, but barely anyone in Malaysia supports them, they sold their soul for nothing.

    Success on the pitch gets you supported outside your home city, absolutely nothing else does.
     
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  19. Happy Tiger

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    Do people really think this is to simply sell more shirts overseas?

    I can see now why none of you are successful and rich enough to have saved the club from being dissolved.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    Exactly, Assem doesn't think for a minute this will increase our overseas shirt sales.

    In fact, I don't believe he thinks this will increase our revenue at all.
     
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