Jackson Irvine HDM

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I think you need to substantiate that, it's key to the whole discussion!

It's from the original the athletic article isn't it. I didn't fully understand it but it was about the extra month of severance pay that's in all footballers' contracts. It seemed to claim that City were saying that month of severance pay should mean they should play for the extra month beyond their original contract, but since it's not actually any more money it'd essentially be playing an extra month for free.
 
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The Athletic article said - 'it has previously been reported that Hull's out-of-contract players were asked to play on until the close of the campaign without the extra month of wages. This was, in effect, being asked to play for free'.
 
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Some other players might be happy and take the risk. For me it would be a good idea to play even if you’re not guaranteed having a contract next season.

“The more you play, the more likely you are to get another club or, if you play well, they’ll be more likely to extend your contract for next season.

“Different players will see it different ways. The older players might not be willing to risk an injury. Me personally I’d prefer to play, even if I’ve not got a guarantee (of an extended contract).”
Top man Kevin stewart
So personal choice
Kevin stewart will be applauded Irvine and lichaj won’t be when or if we play against them.
 
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It's from the original the athletic article isn't it. I didn't fully understand it but it was about the extra month of severance pay that's in all footballers' contracts. It seemed to claim that City were saying that month of severance pay should mean they should play for the extra month beyond their original contract, but since it's not actually any more money it'd essentially be playing an extra month for free.
If this is the case then the club is being cheap and Irvine and anybody else in the same boat is quite entitled not to risk injury when they aren't being paid. As somebody wiser than me once said 'No good deed goes unpunished'.
 
I think we are ignoring the fact he wasn't offered any money to play....

So if your boss said, we want you to leave, I know you are leaving but we want you to stay an extra month but we won't pay you any extra to do this. In that time you may get an injury that will never see you work again in this industry and have to retire. This may have a huge impact on your family and children, but despite this we want you to do it for free.

It's very easy to paint Irvine as the villain when you present the facts completely wrong.

McKenzie, Stewart and Toral were all in the same position, they signed up for the month extension, two of them played, McKenzie didn't even make the bench but travelled with the squad to away games, and they have all been released.
 
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Personally I think using the risk of injury as an excuse not to play when you've just been paid in full to sit at home for 3 months is poor form, you'd hope players would have a bit more integrity than that, especially when they are supposed to be part of the leadership group.

However, given how low moral is around the club and the ill feeling towards the Allams I don't blame him for getting straight on that plane to Australia.
 
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Personally I think using the risk of injury as an excuse not to play when you've just been paid in full to sit at home for 3 months is poor form, you'd hope players would have a bit more integrity than that, especially when they are supposed to be part of the leadership group.

However, given how low moral is around the club and the ill feeling towards the Allams I don't blame him for getting straight on that plane to Australia.
He didn’t get straight on the plane to Australia
He stayed in Hull, presumably hoping he would be offered something for next season.
Only went back to Aus to see his parents when it kicked off again and he hadn’t been offered anything (apart from the option to play for free knowing the club didn’t want him after that period)
 
End of the day if the players don’t feel loved they aren’t gonna break sweat for the club and it’s owners. I don’t blame them.

If this would have happened with a better ‘feel factor’ they would have played.

The fact is Ehab can’t even be bothered to consult players what the future is on their extensions or if the players out of contract. He’s done this ever since been in charge.
 
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He didn’t get straight on the plane to Australia
He stayed in Hull, presumably hoping he would be offered something for next season.
Only went back to Aus to see his parents when it kicked off again and he hadn’t been offered anything (apart from the option to play for free knowing the club didn’t want him after that period)
No any player that doesn’t play for free for a club that doesnt value them is a ****.

Ehab is a visionary in his approach. The old “treat em mean keep em keen” strategy. I can’t work out why it’s been such a failure.
 
So the captain of the club and the vice captain who have sat on their arses in a three month lockdown on pay both decide they can’t play the last few games of the season. They want more money even though they have just had three months off. I’m sorry but I don’t see it their way. They let their manager down and team mates and fans. I can’t see how three players who were to be released decide to play and they don’t.
 
and when they get a serious injury, maybe out for up to 9 months, the club still says bye
no wages
 
and when they get a serious injury, maybe out for up to 9 months, the club still says bye
no wages

You would like to think that the club would stand by the player and see him right. However just like the fans the players don't seem to trust the Allams as far as they could throw them.
 
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So the captain of the club and the vice captain who have sat on their arses in a three month lockdown on pay both decide they can’t play the last few games of the season. They want more money even though they have just had three months off. I’m sorry but I don’t see it their way. They let their manager down and team mates and fans. I can’t see how three players who were to be released decide to play and they don’t.

They had a contract to June 30th. They weren't offered a good enough contract to play beyond then. It's that simple.