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I believe we haven't got a player to agree a new contract, since we gave Bowen improved terms in 2016, that's a hell of a long time to go without a single player agreeing a new deal. We tried with Bowen, Grosicki and de Wijs last year and we took the piss with Odubajo, Tymon and Clark before that. They can't all be ****s.
 
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Godrevy Buoy said:
So the captain of the club and the vice captain who have sat on their arses in a three month lockdown on pay both decide they can’t play the last few games of the season. They want more money even though they have just had three months off. I’m sorry but I don’t see it their way. They let their manager down and team mates and fans. I can’t see how three players who were to be released decide to play and they don’t.
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It’s not just money though is it (in fact I suspect it was much less about money)
Working without a contract, and the protections that gives you from insurance etc, would be very foolish, particularly in an industry which has a much higher rate of injuries than any that we all work in.
Stewart decided to do it, for free, others didn’t.
They might believe, probably quite rightly, that Stewart has a much better chance of a good contract with someone else, and Stewart may have wanted to show himself out there to get one, whereas they might have felt tyre chance for a new contract elsewhere more affected injury than Stewart thinks his is.
Bottom line they were both told they were not wanted next season, then asked if they’d play a few games for free on no contract (or maybe a short term extension)
The Allams want to treat the club like a business, so they get people treating the club like a business...
 
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originallambrettaman said:
I believe we haven't got a player to agree a new contract, since we gave Bowen improved terms in 2016, that's a hell of a long time to go without a single player agreeing a new deal. We tried with Bowen, Grosicki and de Wijs last year and we took the piss with Odubajo, Tymon and Clark before that. They can't all be ****s.
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If true that's a hell of a damming statement! What about Batty a few weeks back?
 
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dennisboothstash said:
He didn’t get straight on the plane to Australia
He stayed in Hull, presumably hoping he would be offered something for next season.
Only went back to Aus to see his parents when it kicked off again and he hadn’t been offered anything (apart from the option to play for free knowing the club didn’t want him after that period)
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I think you misunderstood, I meant he was straight on a plane as soon as he knew he wouldn't be getting a contract for next season. There was still an offer on the table for him to finish the season if he'd have wanted to.
 
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PLT said:
They had a contract to June 30th. They weren't offered a good enough contract to play beyond then. It's that simple.
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I think there's a difference between what they were entitled to do and what they morally should have done.

People are forgetting that support staff were furloughed throughout the season shut down and some even lost their jobs whilst the players picked up their full salaries, there's also the fact that relegation will potentially lead to more redundancies amongst support staff in the next few months.

I'm not sure I could with a clear conscious pocket a few thousand a week whilst my colleagues struggle to pay their bills, then jump ship as soon as the money stops.
 
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
I think there's a difference between what they were entitled to do and what they morally should have done.

People are forgetting that support staff were furloughed throughout the season shut down and some even lost their jobs whilst the players picked up their full salaries, there's also the fact that relegation will potentially lead to more redundancies amongst support staff in the next few months.

I'm not sure I could with a clear conscious pocket a few thousand a week whilst my colleagues struggle to pay their bills, then jump ship as soon as the money stops.
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Bloody hell don't bring morals into it. It's business and dealing with Allam!
 
Urika Peece. said:
McKenzie, Stewart and Toral were all in the same position, they signed up for the month extension, two of them played, McKenzie didn't even make the bench but travelled with the squad to away games, and they have all been released.
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McKenzie was released?

...... why?
 
originallambrettaman said:
I believe we haven't got a player to agree a new contract, since we gave Bowen improved terms in 2016, that's a hell of a long time to go without a single player agreeing a new deal. We tried with Bowen, Grosicki and de Wijs last year and we took the piss with Odubajo, Tymon and Clark before that. They can't all be ****s.
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Oh yes they can.

Specially Tymon, the little toe rag.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
I think there's a difference between what they were entitled to do and what they morally should have done.

People are forgetting that support staff were furloughed throughout the season shut down and some even lost their jobs whilst the players picked up their full salaries, there's also the fact that relegation will potentially lead to more redundancies amongst support staff in the next few months.

I'm not sure I could with a clear conscious pocket a few thousand a week whilst my colleagues struggle to pay their bills, then jump ship as soon as the money stops.
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Excellent post and clearly states why they should have done it.
How can ****s like Irvine read the news and see retired nurses and gp’s go back and work to help the nation and he won’t play football for a few more games. clear conscience some on here applaud the **** em all I’m alright jack mentality.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Excellent post and clearly states why they should have done it.
How can ****s like Irvine read the news and see retired nurses and gp’s go back and work to help the nation and he won’t play football for a few more games. clear conscience some on here applaud the **** em all I’m alright jack mentality.
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Nurses and GPs, quite rightly, didn’t go back to work without being paid.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Excellent post and clearly states why they should have done it.
How can ****s like Irvine read the news and see retired nurses and gp’s go back and work to help the nation and he won’t play football for a few more games. clear conscience some on here applaud the **** em all I’m alright jack mentality.
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You're mental.

He clearly stated he was happy to play if they wanted him. They didn't want him for the rest of his contract and didn't want to give him a new contract for the following year.
 
PLT said:
You're mental.

He clearly stated he was happy to play if they wanted him. They didn't want him for the rest of his contract and didn't want to give him a new contract for the following year.
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That’s not what was said
He could play for a month and he should have done
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
And Irvine would have been paid
Sorry mate we agree on most things but this is morally wrong and he’s a **** as is lichaj
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As far as what has been reported he wouldn’t have been paid.
If that is incorrect in yet to see that.
Still a judgement call though even if they would be paid. They want to run the club like a business, so people pay attention to contractual requirements, in a businesslike manner.
 
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