General Election 2019

I do not accept we should allow abuse just because it appears elsewhere. I am all for robust debates but once it sinks below the polite stage it rapidly deteriorates. W_Y had to put up with some pretty nasty abuse, he was bound to retaliate. You will just have to believe me when I say I have had PMs from 'Tory' posters who just give up after a short while.

Ultimately the forum needs to decide if it just wants a Tory / Brexit bashing platform or a proper forum.

 

I asked you for evidence for the claims you made. You tried and failed to prove your points. In that case, you should have acknowledged that.

But you didn't, you tried to squirm your way out of it. You were caught lying and instead just doubled down.

 

I was about to post an article on the same subject. Boris was also telling them that they won't need to fill in any more paperwork, which members of his cabinet have said isn't true.

It's baffling that he can openly say that staying in the SM/CU is a great deal whilst simultaneously dragging us out of it. Surely this proves that Brexit isn't for the benefit of the nation, just a handful of rich people and the Conservative party.

 

Don't blame me for your lack of ability in finding the YouGov poll. I even gave you the date it was published. It clearly stated Boris was more popular than Corbyn amongst the 18 -24 year olds along with every other age group. It is no secret that Corbyn is very unpopular.

 

'You will just have to believe me' sounds a bit like party electioneering SH. You say 'I have had PMs from Tory posters who just gave up' so I think it is applicable that you back up that statement with cases.

 

In contrast to Labour's proposed uncontrolled immigration, Priti Patel has announce a sensible points based immigration system including a fast track NHS visa. This will enable the UK to take the best applicants from around the world. Simultaneously it will ensure non access to those not considered beneficial to the UK's needs.

 

They were private PMs which I will not reveal.

 

Here is your chance SH. Explain to the remainers on here why Johnson says staying in the customs union and single market is so good, yet he wants to take the bulk of the UK out of it.

 

I have found it only on a Telegraph article - unfortunately analyzing it wuld involve paying for the privilege - which I am not prepared to do. However I am prepared to believe there might be something behind it - for all his bluster and lies Bojo does come over as having some elements of humour - something lacking in Corbyn. Certainly I could not imagine going out for a pint with Corbyn. But that is not the point - Corbyn doesn't personalize politics and neither do I - it is the parties policies which are important and not their figurehead. The young are disappointed that Corbyn has not turned out to be a blood and guts remainer - I can understand that. The older Labour Brexiteers in the north hate him for another reason - he really can't win. The Blairite right of the party hates him - and the Tories have realized that, in the absence of real arguments, the cry of anti semitism will complete the picture. Worth remembering here that overall 80% of Jews in the UK. voted for Thatcher, and so many of them may have other reasons for beating Corbyn over the head, and anti semitism is a handy weapon to do it with.

 

If you can't back up your statement, then don't produce it in the first place - or can we presume that Toby's description is the right one ?

 

Is it only Tories like myself that want to keep the hapless Corbyn in office?

Whatever you think about policies etc, it must be hard for anybody, except maybe Momentum comrades, to say Corbyn has not been a total disaster for socialist causes.

 

You can presume what you like. I have never lied on these threads, I have no reason to.

 

No, you said Corbyn was an antisemite. I asked you for proof of this, you had none.

I'm still waiting...

 

Not much I can say about that - if you believe it then fine !

 

In addition to explaining to us why staying in the customs union and the single market is so good, perhaps you would also like to explain why Johnson is saying that no paperwork between NI and GB will be required when the governments own documents say the opposite. Does he not understand, or could he be telling untruths?

 

Brexit has reduced political discourse to this, feelings, beliefs and opinions are masqueraded as facts. It's the result of too much blatant lying and U-turns from the Government, with people just being told what is good and what is bad and parroting it back to others.

Corbyn is the perfect example, he's pretty much a harmless left-wing politician who has always campaigned for peace and other worthwhile causes, but apparently now he's a racist, too old/sick to govern, hates the British people, looks scruffy, too scared to start wars, a champagne socialist and the biggest threat to national security and the economy since WW2. (probably forgotten a few of the lies and slurs thrown at him over the last 4 years)

Boris though? Great chap!

 

Which post did I call Corbyn an anti semite?

 

still waiting, are you going back weeks, months, years?

 

You were promoting views that associated Corbyn with being an antisemite. If you didn't agree with them then you didn't state it.

Do you think Corbyn is an antisemite?

 

So you got your knickers in a twist for nothing.

I quoted the fact that many people, including Cobyn's fellow Labour MPs call him out as an anti semite. The vast majority of Jewish people think he is an anti semite. I do not need to prove his culpability either way, I am just pleased it helps makes him and his party deeply unattractive with the electorate.