General Election 2019

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General Election 2019

  • Labour

    Votes: 12 36.4%

  • Tory

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • Lib. Dem

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • My legs because they support me

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Total voters
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Toby said:
Corbyn is the perfect example, he's pretty much a harmless left-wing politician who has always campaigned for peace and other worthwhile causes, but apparently now he's a racist, too old/sick to govern, hates the British people, looks scruffy, too scared to start wars, a champagne socialist and the biggest threat to national security and the economy since WW2. (probably forgotten a few of the lies and slurs thrown at him over the last 4 years)
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Yes slurs stick..... and so do smears..... a sad indictment of this age.

Corbyn really lives waht he believes in and has followed the same causes since his youth

Listen to BoJo and Corbyn

Corbyn speaks policies ( we know what he will set out to do when he gets in even if we may disagree)

BoJo speaks in straplines and generalisations (he will 'get brexit done' whatever that means. We can not be sure whatt he will do other than that)

At least May said 'Brexit means Brexit'... whatever that means
 
superhorns said:
So you got your knickers in a twist for nothing. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I quoted the fact that many people, including Cobyn's fellow Labour MPs call him out as an anti semite. The vast majority of Jewish people think he is an anti semite. I do not need to prove his culpability either way, I am just pleased it helps makes him and his party deeply unattractive with the electorate.
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Answer my question. Do you think he is an antisemite?
 
Toby said:
You are making claims with no evidence to prove a point you raised. I asked you for evidence, and you had nothing. You are lying.

Want me to show you the definition of 'lying'?
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"If you can't show it then you don't know it and you shouldn't say that you do". (Aron Ra)
Dear old SH is asking you to take what he says on faith.... yet again.... tut tut.
 
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Hornet-Fez said:
"If you can't show it then you don't know it and you shouldn't say that you do". (Aron Ra)
Dear old SH is asking you to take what he says on faith.... yet again.... tut tut.
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Some people just believe what they want to believe, it is an inherent weakness.
 
Toby said:
Stop being such a coward, answer the question.
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You really are asking the wrong person. You should be asking those hordes of socialists why they think their leader, or ex leader for those that have disowned the party, why they consider Corbyn to be an anti semite. It should not be too difficult to find them. As a Conservative at election time I am really enjoying his record unpopularity and trustworthiness.
 
superhorns said:
You really are asking the wrong person. You should be asking those hordes of socialists why they think their leader, or ex leader for those that have disowned the party, why they consider Corbyn to be an anti semite. It should not be too difficult to find them. As a Conservative at election time I am really enjoying his record unpopularity and trustworthiness.
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It's a yes/no answer.
 
Speaking about people being untrustworthy I don't see any response from SH to the questions I asked earlier. In case he has forgotten I will copy and paste it again.

In addition to explaining to us why staying in the customs union and the single market is so good, perhaps you would also like to explain why Johnson is saying that no paperwork between NI and GB will be required when the governments own documents say the opposite. Does he not understand, or could he be telling untruths?
 
Toby said:
It's a yes/no answer.
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The big question on December 13th will be: why on earth did the Labour Party keep such a liability as head of the party for so long.
There is a perception amongst many traditional Labour voters of Corbyn as an anti semite, security risk, anti royalist and fear of far left politics. This is why Labour is polling down at 25%. Of course Labour's muddled message on Brexit has also contributed to the lack of support amongst the electorate.
 
No, corbyn is not an anti-Semite imho. Not that I've been asked but if I were to have been asked then that is how I would answer.
Also his stance on the Palestinian situation, whilst having a degree of sympathy for the Palestinian people, *[edit: is misguided]. I have no time for hamas and nor do I think that the Israeli land grabs are sufficiently punished by the U.N. to discourage further transgressions. *[edit the two political sides are as bad as each other and it is the people that suffer]
Rabin and Arafat were actually getting somewhere, but of course Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist and Arafat's death remains, to many, ambiguous.

There is insufficient distance between corbyn, hamas, and other nefarious groups so far as I'm concerned. Nor do I think UND is in our best interests. I do not trust him with the defence of the Realm.

And I'm certainly not of a republican bent - the last thing we need is a fresh fattening pig to a shiny new trough, I would much rather the impotent monarchy that we have today. Being an atheist I fully realise the hypocrisy of my position in terms of the "divine right of kings", but there we are: another layer of politicians is not the answer.

**didn't quite read as I'd intended, so I've up dated for clarity.
 
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Sir John Curtis has played down the effect of the so called 'Unite to remain' between the LibDems, Plaid Cymru and the Greens. He has concluded that only about 6 seats out of the 60 are likely to affected.
 
superhorns said:
You really are asking the wrong person. You should be asking those hordes of socialists why they think their leader, or ex leader for those that have disowned the party, why they consider Corbyn to be an anti semite. It should not be too difficult to find them. As a Conservative at election time I am really enjoying his record unpopularity and trustworthiness.
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So, putting two and two together you are not prepared to say whether you believe that Corbyn is an anti Semite or not - which means you have no set idea on the subject. Yet you are, nonetheless, revelling in the discomfort which such an accusation causes him - is that the case. So you are quite happy to see an innocent man pronounced guilty because it serves your political purpose - how very sick ! At the other end of the scale I see that Borisov (his new name since suppressing the report about Russian involvement in the referendum) - has confirmed there will not be an inquiry into Islamophobia in the party - so they are only anti racist when they want to score points.
 
Great news from Johnson. We are going to raise money issuing visas to nurses who don't currently need them. To make it really attractive the cost of the visa will be reduced from £928 to £464. It doesn't end there though. They would also be able to pay back the cost of the immigration health surcharge through their salary. This really is attractive to your average nurse from Spain or Italy, I am sure they will be flocking to the UK shortly.
 
colognehornet said:
So, putting two and two together you are not prepared to say whether you believe that Corbyn is an anti Semite or not - which means you have no set idea on the subject. Yet you are, nonetheless, revelling in the discomfort which such an accusation causes him - is that the case. So you are quite happy to see an innocent man pronounced guilty because it serves your political purpose - how very sick ! At the other end of the scale I see that Borisov (his new name since suppressing the report about Russian involvement in the referendum) - has confirmed there will not be an inquiry into Islamophobia in the party - so they are only anti racist when they want to score points.
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You make think he is innocent many think he is as guilty as hell, I will let others have an opinion. Wishing a political opponent is seen as politically unelectable is not sick in any sense of the word. This really is snowflakeish, (a new word!!) The most serious accusations against Corbyn are from his former colleagues, presumably they know him really well.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Great news from Johnson. We are going to raise money issuing visas to nurses who don't currently need them. To make it really attractive the cost of the visa will be reduced from £928 to £464. It doesn't end there though. They would also be able to pay back the cost of the immigration health surcharge through their salary. This really is attractive to your average nurse from Spain or Italy, I am sure they will be flocking to the UK shortly.
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The unemployment rate in those home EU countries is so bad they will have little choice.
 
colognehornet said:
They do have a choice they can go to other European countries where the conditions are better such as Germany or the Netherlands.
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I'm sure there will be lots of applicants from around the world. Hopefully a job in future does not imply automatic residency.
 
superhorns said:
You make think he is innocent many think he is as guilty as hell, I will let others have an opinion. Wishing a political opponent is seen as politically unelectable is not sick in any sense of the word. This really is snowflakeish, (a new word!!) The most serious accusations against Corbyn are from his former colleagues, presumably they know him really well.
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It's not a case of being snowflakeish (this really does look odd) but rather saying I want to win based on policies not on personalities. The most serious accusations against Corbyn are from those of the Blairite faction who cannot accept that the party is going back to its roots. So you are essentially saying that the attacks coming in on Corbyn are nothing more than a point scoring exercise ?
 
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