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originallambrettaman said:
She's not though, you may not personally like her, but she's not ****.

She has 140 caps for England and a degree in journalism, she's far better qualified than many of her male counterparts and despite this she's battled sexism since day one (and continues to do so).
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I’ve noticed it tends to be ham fisted gammons that have a strange problem with her.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
She's not though, you may not personally like her, but she's not ****.

She has 140 caps for England and a degree in journalism, she's far better qualified than many of her male counterparts and despite this she's battled sexism since day one (and continues to do so).
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Having caps for women’s internationals and a degree in journalism does not make you an authority on men’s football or a good presenter. Did Wolstenholme, Barry Davis, John Motson etc have England caps and a degree in journalism?
Having England caps in men’s football does not mean that person is a good presenter , pundit or commentator either as we find out every weekend.
 
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Can anyone point to any particular incidents or things she’s said that they don’t agree with that make her a **** pundit?
 
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One telling thing from all of this is that there doesn't seem to be a local replacement lined up for a 64 year old jock who is liable to retire at some point in the next few years anyway.
 
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Cityzen said:
Having caps for women’s internationals and a degree in journalism does not make you an authority on men’s football or a good presenter. Did Wolstenholme, Barry Davis, John Motson etc have England caps and a degree in journalism?
Having England caps in men’s football does not mean that person is a good presenter p, pundit or commentator as we find out every weekend.
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Journalistic qualifications you say? :emoticon-0127-lipss

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Amin Yapusi said:
Can anyone point to any particular incidents or things she’s said that they don’t agree with that make her a **** pundit?
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Dislike her estuary English voice. Not just her either whose voice grates, male and female. There was a time commentators could enunciate. Some people don’t mind the sound of Danny Dyer FFS.
 
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DMD said:
One telling thing from all of this is that there doesn't seem to be a local replacement lined up for a 64 year old jock who is liable to retire at some point in the next few years anyway.
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Of course there is. Kofi and the Grimsby Whaler are itching to extend their hours!
 
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Journalistic qualifications you say? :emoticon-0127-lipss

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Wonder if Fatty Fieldhouse and James Shield had degrees in journalism?They made Gollum look professional.
I remember a few years ago a Blades fan in pub was reading a Sheffield paper. In it there was an article where Blades fans had voted Shields the worst reporter they had ever had.
 
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Shark Sports said:
I don't really understand that as a point as to why it's value for money now. Lovely initiative during Covid but I still don't understand why I should have to pay for that when it's not something I consume. I'd also guarantee that there were plenty of good alternatives for teaching kids at home on YouTube which are completely free to watch. I use Youtube a lot, pretty much daily and I think it's one of the best resources/content providers around and it's completely free.
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It wasn't an argument that it's value for money, it was just a demonstration of how its a public service which exists to do good and not just an entertainment provider for profit like Netflix is.

Whether its value for money or not is a matter of opinion and probably a complex one, but I think that should be considered alongside other taxes which pay for services that we may or may not personally use, rather than compared to the value of paying for Netflix or Disney, which are very different propositions.
 
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PLT said:
It wasn't an argument that it's value for money, it was just a demonstration of how its a public service which exists to do good and not just an entertainment provider for profit like Netflix is.

Whether its value for money or not is a matter of opinion and probably a complex one, but I think that should be considered alongside other taxes which pay for services that we may or may not personally use, rather than compared to the value of paying for Netflix or Disney, which are very different propositions.
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Then it should come out of National Insurance contributions and/or income tax and not be a ‘voluntary’ license which isn’t really voluntary even if you never watch BBC channels.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Happy Birthday Burnsy!! 26th April was a great day to be born.

He shares his birthday with some top-drawer Icons...There's Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius,Duane Eddy,Koo Stark and Ric Glasgow:emoticon-0148-yes:

Burnsy and I are inextricably linked.He's a Scotsman who ply's his trade in England,I'm an Englishman who ply's his trade in Scotland,both Taureans,both talk ****:emoticon-0102-bigsm


Freaky!!!
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Happy birthday Ric, have a good 'un.<cheers>
 
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Kalman said:
Then it should come out of National Insurance contributions and/or income tax and not be a ‘voluntary’ license which isn’t really voluntary even if you never watch BBC channels.
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Not a bad shout.
Tbf, in past times, I never minded paying for my TV licence. I always thought it was great value (TV and radio). But times have changed so much. In some ways I still don't mind paying it (although I agree it's really now an outdated model) were it not for the scandalous salaries of some, with 'up himself' Lineker being top of the list. Scandalous is absolutely the right word for it. Shows like MoTD should NEVER be about the presenters, it should be about the football. Somewhere along the line the balance tipped way too far the wrong way.
I wonder if the scandalous salaries would be addressed if the funding came from NI or Income Tax?
 
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PLT said:
It wasn't an argument that it's value for money, it was just a demonstration of how its a public service which exists to do good and not just an entertainment provider for profit like Netflix is.

Whether its value for money or not is a matter of opinion and probably a complex one, but I think that should be considered alongside other taxes which pay for services that we may or may not personally use, rather than compared to the value of paying for Netflix or Disney, which are very different propositions.
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Some countries charge nothing, some charge less, some charge a hell of a lot more. Some you need to pay even if you don’t have a TV.<laugh> None of their state TV stations is as good as the BBC. If you want to see a servile broadcaster kowtowing to whoever is in power look no further than France.
As for value for money, how long would it take to read the paper edition of the HDM? Buy that every day and it would cost you £9 a week compared to the BBC’s £3 a week. Like it or not it is cheap compared to Netflix, SKY and others.
 
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Cityzen said:
How do you managr at a game without someone telling you what is going on? The OP's original point was ridiculous-that a commentator is good value because they are nice to look (surprised he wasn't pulled up for sexist remarks by PC Yoast)at and if you don't like their voice turn the sound off.
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Cityzen said:
I don’t think she is very good. And any suggestions I have anything against people because they are black just shows how little you know me and that people who have known me for over 50 years could put you right on that. And, unlike some on here, I am pro Jewish. There are good female presenters but she is, in my opinion, not one of them. I am not as obsessed by her as Hellmand who thinks she is so good looking it is worth employing her just for that fact.
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Steady on with accusations of sexism, buddy. I wrote she was a looker, so worth her salary and you ought to turn down the sound if you don't like her opinions or voice. I'd write the same about a man or a transexual if I felt that way.

Not sure why anyone needs to be talked through a game they're watching, but that's my opinion as I don't analyse the game really having never played it at any level beyond childhood or think about it that much after, just enjoy it in the moment. Appreciate crowd noise improves a game.
 
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Muzz said:
It's always found it strange how wound up people get by by football pundits. Can't you just disagree with them and move on?
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People get wound up by other presenters, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Vine etc. Can’t they just move on?
 
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