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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 21, 2016.

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How will you be voting?

  1. Remain

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    46.1%
  2. Leave

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    53.9%
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  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I'm more than happy for the SNP boat to sail and pay their own taxes to finance their benefits while they wait to be admitted to the EU. Unfortunately, I feel that if there is another referendum enough Scots will recognise it is financial suicide to cut of the stream of money flowing from England.
     
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  2. petersaxton

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    We DO have a constitution! It's just not a written constitution.
     
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  3. petersaxton

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    You seem to have an obsession about IQs. I've never mentioned my IQ and when I asked a question about IQ tests you panicked and thought I was asking about your IQ. Says it all really.
     
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  4. Tobes

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    The reality ? <laugh>

    I posted the reality, it's called a simple fact love

    You've posted the meaningless words of a Tory snake, who was firmly in the Leave camp.

    Btw the slide only halted after Carney pledged £250BN to support the banks.
     
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  5. petersaxton

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    Everybody - except you - seems to understand it will be the person who wins the Conservative Party leadership race.
     
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    Article 50 will be invoked this year. I've said what I think.
     
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    Anybody who refuses to following the referendum result will lose their seat at the next election - except maybe David Lammy!
     
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  8. petersaxton

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    Labour MPs realise this but I think he has plenty of support among the ordinary members.
     
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    Half the shadow cabinet are Blairites, the majority of the individual members aren't. The Labour Party didn't represent the majority of its voters because they didn't support leave. The Blairites cannot recreate the wider Party in their image so Corbyn will be re-elected unless he goes quietly, which he has given no indication of.
     
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    Don't be silly.
     
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    The referendum has produced a result and the Conservative Party will come together due to their belief in democracy.
    Sufficient Labour Party members also believe in democracy so the the referendum result will get acted upon.

    I was in favour of the transferable vote which, although linking an MP to a constituency, reduced the power of the party. But the referendum on voting put paid to that idea. However much reform is preferable it is not going to happen.
     
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    It seems like your definition of "silly question" is something you can't answer.

    You seem incapable of producing an answer to how the Leave/Remain decision could be decided in a democratic way.
     
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    63% of Labour voters opted for remain, so that's were your argument sort of dies mate.

    http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
     
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  14. The greengrocer

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    Can someone start a petition to ask the remainers to STOP WHINGING And take the result?
     
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    <laugh> The only thing kids in night clubs are discussing at 3.00am, is how to split the bar bill and whether the slightly agitated person that just sat with them is on Ketamine or not.
     
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  16. Obadiah

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    It could mean the break-up of the United Kingdom, possibly a united Ireland, possibly the loss of Gibraltar, the opt outs for the City of London torn up over-night, a fee of £300 million a day to join a free trade agreement, unlimited immigration from the EU, unrestricted access to in-work benefits for EU citizens, the EU telling us what we can and cannot export to them under a free trade agreement and what goods will be excluded from any free trade agreement with the rest of the world.

    That is what the next Tory leader is likely to sign. Unless they get support from the Labour Party they are likely to face electoral meltdown if they bring home a deal like that.
     
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    He's not writing opinions he's writing facts.
    Of course the Bank of England made clear that speculators wouldn't get anywhere. That's one of their roles. More sensible people people know that there is no need to panic when the markets get it wrong. Give people time to calm down and come back to rationality.
     
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    OK, Lammy as well!
     
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    The markets hate uncertainty.

    We've voted to leave and Cameron has walked away from actioning it, leaving the job to his successor in October at the earliest. So we face 4 months of complete political inertia. If you think that's a recipe for anything other than market turmoil then you're delusional
     
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    That's why most of the above nonsense is not going to happen.
    The only thing that has the slightest chance of happening is that the SNP will want another referendum. The interesting thing is this time the English will want Scotland to leave and the Scots will realise they are incapable of supporting themselves. The EU doesn't want another basket case either.
     
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