Say No to Hull Tigers

[DMD]

Would those happy with the name change be equally happy with us switching to playing in a red kit?

...at another ground...with another name...

 

[Fez]

Totally agree. Boring as **** isn't it.

Then stop provoking it and, like Obadiah, engage in the discussion.

 

[DMD]

Then stop provoking it and, like Obadiah, engage in the discussion.

Well, that lasted less than the other times you said it didn't it?

 

[Amin Arrears]

Can anyone explain why some rugby loving football hating simple minded almost fossilised dinosaurs would give a flying **** about their least favourite team being called Hull Tigers instead of Hull City?

Really, not a single **** will be given on their part, in fact they'll probably enjoy it due to its result of pissing off a large part of our fan base.

 

[originallambrettaman]

...at another ground...with another name...

Why not, they could all be done for the same spurious reasons.

 

[John. Walkington.]

Would those happy with the name change be equally happy with us switching to playing in a red kit?

Has there been any suggestion of this, or are you also dreaming this up?

 

[DMD]

Why not, they could all be done for the same spurious reasons.

It all depends where someone draws the boundary of what "The Club" is.

I reckon it should make reference to what and where it is and what and where it represents. So, it's a Club in the City known as Hull and it plays Association Football. What's a succinct name to represent all that?

 

[Happy Tiger]

if you seriously believe that, then why not prove it?

Erm ok, remember the last 2 marches? Oh no, you don't, you were busy. Well let me tell you, not so popular.

There is a petition against the name change, it has about 4,000 signature so far, why not start a petition in support of the name change and see how much support you get for it?

Online petition? Honestly? You're really missing the point here. In terms of actual support, the antis have hardly anything. The majority of fans are not anti, or in fact pro, they really and genuinely do not care. Rather than try to engage these people, you're hell bent on alienating them, for which I'd like to say, thanks!

See, I don't need to prove anything, the fact is you need people on the Anti side, I don't need people on the Pro side, because for me, the CBA's are as good as on my side too.

There's also one minor last point, in much the same way as you are, Dr A is never wrong. He won't back down. He won't listen to anyone elses point of view if he thinks he's right. Now I think about it, you're like Dr Allams Mini Me! Hah! You could learn some humility from him though. Anyhoo, where was I? Oh aye, unless you got MASSIVE support, your protest isn't going anywhere. Even then, it most likely wouldn't go anywhere too.

I'll even give you a tenner if you get past 40 signatures.

Oh you and your money. See my point about humility above. Yes we get it. You have a small business thats been successful albeit on a smaller scale than Dr A, and given you and your family a good life. Bless you but I really don't need your money, and nor do I appreciate your crass attempts at waving it in my face.

Those against have already donated a four figure sum, how much do you think you could raise in a campaign to support our owners plan for a name change?

Christ, we know you offered a wedge to cover the post costs. Ok ok, you have a few quid. Well done you. HUMILITY. Try it. I Show some self respect, just stop this now. Stop trying to suggest the Anti's have wide spread support. Apathy has the most support.

On CI and AN the support is universal, I have over 1,000 followers on Twitter, almost all City fans and only one has said they don't support the campaign and even that is only because they think the Allam's have invested so much and should be free to do what they like.

Ok Mr Popular. We know, we see you copy n pasting their stuff on here all the time. Everyone loves you, you're ITK. You're successful online as well as offline. We get it. H word wouldnt go amiss here.

Of course it is universal on those sites. It isn't here. It wasn't at the 2 games either, and that's where is should matter. 1000 angry supporters of this online, but not in actual real effort and time. See the common thread here? This is the element you're not getting. You're NOT fighting on their behalf, you're fighting on your owns.

The only people who seem happy with this change, are a small minority on here and a couple of people on Facebook who have difficulty spelling their own name.

Pot - Black - Kettle. For the last time, the CBA majority are as good as backing the changes. Without them, the anti's ARE a minority.

There's no huge them and us either. Apart from your small minority, most fans are just interested in one thing, the team. Are you harking back to the 70/80s when you were just a working class kid, full of anger and rebellion, and needing to shout about stuff? Just accept who you are and where you are now and be grateful your kids never had the sort of upbringing we had.

Suggesting that those who support this campaign are in the minority is utter bollocks.

No, it really isn't.

Apologies to the rest reading this, I know he doesn't like people disagreeing with him. But I can't stop myself.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Has there been any suggestion of this, or are you also dreaming this up?

It hasn't been suggested at all.

I'm merely asking the question, if people are happy to accept a name change on the basis that they swallow the increased revenue nonsense, then presumably they would accept the kit change for the same reason?

 

[John. Walkington.]

This thread looks to be turning into the OLM and DMD mutual appreciation society.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Apologies to the rest reading this, I know he doesn't like people disagreeing with him. But I can't stop myself.

I'm glad you apologised for that post, it was a complete crock of ****.

Do you ever actually post about our football team?

It's just occurred to me, that I don't remember any of your posts that weren't either you bitching about marches, or trying(and failing miserably), to join in Carmine and Hazz's Lonsdale/Brut conversations.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Can anyone explain why some rugby loving football hating simple minded almost fossilised dinosaurs would give a flying **** about their least favourite team being called Hull Tigers instead of Hull City?

Really, not a single **** will be given on their part, in fact they'll probably enjoy it due to its result of pissing off a large part of our fan base.

As no one can explain why the council should give a ****, I'm guessing I'm on the money here.

 

[Obadiah]

This thread looks to be turning into the OLM and DMD mutual appreciation society.

I know, it seems some people know what buttons to push to get a response. The thread as moved from us raising over a £1,000 pounds (all paid in cash) to discussion about balloons, Melton, Tigers, enagaging in discussion. None of which detracts from the simple fact that those opposed to the name will be campaigning in the future to remain Hull City AFC. I'm sure this discussion will be one we all come back to in the future.

 

[Fez]

I think Fez raises some good points. If I'm not mistaken he's saying that at present we are a small minority and how are we going to persuade all those who are unhappy with the name change to get involved which could mean everything from wearing a badge, signing an on-line petition, marching or other forms of protest.

In the last week we have seen the numbers contributing to the campaign increase. People are coming forward with ideas and money. We are moving in the right direction and we have until April when the Premier League has to agree that Assem Allam has abided by their rules before it can approve any name change. One of the things they will do is compare the consultation carried out by Everton with the consultation carried out by Hull City Tigers Ltd.

Happy Tiger, many people call us City. By changing the name you deny them that privilege. If they carry on as Assem Allam suggests then over time, especially if we are successful, they will look like cranks. If you don't believe me walk into any of the old banks in the city centre that are now pubs and ask for your change in shilling pieces. As you know they still exist unlike the ten bob note.

Finally why would we want a new nickname? Don't you think The Tigers is perfect?

Obadiah, you have the essence of my point. I believe many are disgruntled with the change and see it as a pointless exercise which is only being done at the whim of the owner of the club; the reasons for the change are something that really doesn’t affect them so why become upset about it. If you were to read my back-posts on the subject you would discover that I am vigorously against any change, including dropping AFC; were my position has shifted is that I have grown to believe that any protest is futile, although still necessary.

I will not waste my time responding to DMD to justify figures, my point was a general one and an opinion, the only figure I used was the 16,000 dependable gate from last season – not something worthy of nit-picking. I do believe that the campaign ‘activists’ (and I do not use that term in any derogatory way) are in the minority, I believe they will struggle with a prolonged campaign as, tactically, that plays into the hands of AA who has the same opportunity to influence the outcome, but with far more clout. As I have said previously (how dare I repeat it ), I believe that reasonable in-ground protest is the way forward, it is visible and it would reach a wider audience; I also believe, that if the weight of opinion is so heavily against the change, that all routine co-operation between supporter-groups and the club should be suspended and a unified statement produced that will attract media attention. But is there really that unified weight of opinion. Selective communication could take place between these groups and the club, or better still a coalition of nominated representatives, to try and resolve what is claimed to be a huge void between the supporters and the club.

Like many, I travel extensively with my job and speak to lots of folk and they mostly find it all a bit of a fuss really and not something they have a strong view about, one way or another.

Despite the inane postings of DMD, I will continue to support the campaign, but I will reserve the right to give my opinion in open forum, when and how often I see fit.

 

[Fez]

Well, that lasted less than the other times you said it didn't it?

Do you get some sort of a kick from this? Can you not see that you are doing exactly what you lambast others for supposedly doing, repeating your posts to the level of tedium? Stop it and let folk discuss their thoughts.

 

[Fez]

Why not, they could all be done for the same spurious reasons.

Exactly.

 

[DMD]

Do you get some sort of a kick from this? Can you not see that you are doing exactly what you lambast others for supposedly doing, repeating your posts to the level of tedium? Stop it and let folk discuss their thoughts.

Nope, it bores me and others silly. I wish you'd just move on and stop trying to invent problems and issues to justify your obsession.

NOBODY is stopping people posting their opinions.

 

[Obadiah]

Obadiah, you have the essence of my point. I believe many are disgruntled with the change and see it as a pointless exercise which is only being done at the whim of the owner of the club; the reasons for the change are something that really doesn’t affect them so why become upset about it. If you were to read my back-posts on the subject you would discover that I am vigorously against any change, including dropping AFC; were my position has shifted is that I have grown to believe that any protest is futile, although still necessary.

I will not waste my time responding to DMD to justify figures, my point was a general one and an opinion, the only figure I used was the 16,000 dependable gate from last season – not something worthy of nit-picking. I do believe that the campaign ‘activists’ (and I do not use that term in any derogatory way) are in the minority, I believe they will struggle with a prolonged campaign as, tactically, that plays into the hands of AA who has the same opportunity to influence the outcome, but with far more clout. As I have said previously (how dare I repeat it ), I believe that reasonable in-ground protest is the way forward, it is visible and it would reach a wider audience; I also believe, that if the weight of opinion is so heavily against the change, that all routine co-operation between supporter-groups and the club should be suspended and a unified statement produced that will attract media attention. But is there really that unified weight of opinion. Selective communication could take place between these groups and the club, or better still a coalition of nominated representatives, to try and resolve what is claimed to be a huge void between the supporters and the club.

Like many, I travel extensively with my job and speak to lots of folk and they mostly find it all a bit of a fuss really and not something they have a strong view about, one way or another.

Despite the inane postings of DMD, I will continue to support the campaign, but I will reserve the right to give my opinion in open forum, when and how often I see fit.

Fez we have a number of audiences but only two really matter. Assem Allam could say he's changed his mind after listening to the fans. I'm sure if he used the words The Tigers in big bold font in any Asian campaign with Hull City AFC in small font nobody would complain.

Alternatively he could follow Everton's example and ask us and agree to abide by the result.

The other body that matters is the Premier League. Assem Allam must show he has consulted the fans. If we can show any consultation was a sham they may refuse the application.

If we don't do anything we lose the one thing that binds our footballing community together. The thread that ties those fans calling us City to Canada Tiger's generation who call us Tigers. We need both words, but not in one title. Hull City AFC is our name for Sunday best, whilst City and/or The Tigers are our everyday names.

 

[mostynthecat]

with regards to OLM's "silly" suggestion that what happens if we change our kit to red (using the Cardiff example) or move our ground (presume referring to MK Dons). Firstly if we are going to be called the Tigers - unless I have missed something in nature Tigers are black and amber so the kit colour is safe. As for the moving of ground - erm if we are the Hull Tigers why would we play outside of Hull.

What is interesting this morning is Mr Wenger being interested in Barnet as a feeder club. Now Papa, if we go down the feeder club route (if it does come to pass), will be even more determined about the name change because then our feeder club can also be called (and looking at Conference Premier there are 2 possibles) either Lincoln Tigers or Grimsby Tigers - meaning it is easily identifiable which club is associated with the mighty Hull Tigers.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

with regards to OLM's "silly" suggestion that what happens if we change our kit to red (using the Cardiff example) or move our ground (presume referring to MK Dons). Firstly if we are going to be called the Tigers - unless I have missed something in nature Tigers are black and amber so the kit colour is safe. As for the moving of ground - erm if we are the Hull Tigers why would we play outside of Hull.

What is interesting this morning is Mr Wenger being interested in Barnet as a feeder club. Now Papa, if we go down the feeder club route (if it does come to pass), will be even more determined about the name change because then our feeder club can also be called (and looking at Conference Premier there are 2 possibles) either Lincoln Tigers or Grimsby Tigers - meaning it is easily identifiable which club is associated with the mighty Hull Tigers.

We already have a feeder club, Manchester United Football Club.

Obviously we should be shortening the name, they'd never achieve any global recognition with such a long name.

Man Tigers vs Man Hunters at the Canal Street Stadium. Wonderful