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Walter Out

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Sir Cheshire Ben, Aug 3, 2024.

  1. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    It’s as chaotic and reckless as Shota and Slutsky, in fact possibly even more so. It’s very clear he’s incapable of organising a defensive unit.

    Forget about performances, shots, goals, systems. The teams shape is so undisciplined and haphazard, we will get absolutely slaughtered time after time this level when it’s such a mess, giving away silly easy goals like last night.

    Cut our losses, as we did with Shota and Slutsky, anything else is a waste of time. Like when a manager hooks a player having a shocker in the first half, that’s what needs to happen here.
     
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  2. amberman8

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    I am stating to see his team...bad result last night but in places we were starting to look better. I think we will start to gel and progress soon. Hopefully not too late but it will happen
     
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  3. DazzaHatty

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    Who's going to want to come here? Our turnover of managers is beyond a joke atm. We shouldn't be on 4 managers since Acun bought us. What self respecting manager would want to be here?
     
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  4. FLG

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    It's certainly off your seat football.
    Half the crowd had got up and ****ed off by 85 minutes.
     
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  5. Cortez91

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    Boo boys - who are you booing?
     
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  6. Kalman II

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    My biggest concern is that we end up like Watford.
     
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  7. HulltoHellandback

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    A solid championship side never in relegation trouble? Yes please
     
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  8. Kalman II

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    More so the constant hiring and firing of managers. I’m hoping Walter can turn it around and start getting results. The next two or three games are crucial as to whether I think he’s got a future here. We’ve seen glimpses of his principles and style of play working but we need to start getting wins on the board.
     
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  9. Gone For A Walk

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    Tbf, that's better than usual!
     
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  10. tigerrev

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    Its not who, it's what. To name but 3;

    1) Slow, pedestrian football
    2) Despite having around 70% possession only creating 1 or 2 decent chances all night
    3) Unhealthy obsession with short corners

    Then after the game Walter sounded like Walter Mitty in his assessment of what he had just seen
     
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  11. Tigerboy98

    Tigerboy98 Well-Known Member

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    Sack the manager after his first game with the players we’ve just spent all summer getting for his system. GREAT IDEA!

    Thank **** even Acun isn’t that reactionary.

    Some of you complain Acun needs to stop behaving like he’s playing Football Manager but then you expect video game results.

    New highly rated players + new foreign manager = instant success? NO

    It’s going to take time for players to learn the system, learn playing with each other, to build relationships with the manager and each other. You can’t just throw a bunch of players together and expect it to result in instant success, they have to actually want to play for each other, they have to understand the system confidently, you don’t get that after a week.

    They’ve all just met each other as teammates and management and staff. They’re not going to go that extra mile for each other yet, they’re not going to make that lung bursting run, run themselves into the ground, or take those extra risks for people they’ve just met.

    They don’t fully understand what they should be doing at all times in all situations, they don’t fully understand what their team mate should be doing.

    Once there’s some team morale, once there’s trust between the players, and once the system is second nature we’re going to see massive improvements.

    Have some bloody faith and stop wanting instant success, if it was ****ing easy everyone would do it!
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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  13. Tigerboy98

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    I’m not sure I understand your point? Having most of the attacking team near the defending teams box during a corner is completely normal
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, most.

    Not all.

    And your furthest man back being a lightweight attacking winger <laugh>

    It’s just madness.
     
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  15. PLT

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    You think team morale is going to just improve over time while getting comfortably beaten and booed off every week?

    Expecting video game results? We've not won a game. What is a realistic level of expectation for results we're allowed to hope for then?
     
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  16. bradymk2

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    Nevermind winning a game
    We literally have never even had a lead one second under tim


    Not even having a hope of a win
    Or something to.hold onto

    The players must be massively questioning
    Must be mentally hard to never take a lead
    To always be behind
     
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  17. Tigerboy98

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    Look at the pictures I posted, count the players and see where each player is. It’s very common.

    In the Arsenal picture you can see Saka and Odegard furthest back, in the Man City picture you can see Bernardo Silva and Foden furthest back. In the Brentford picture you can see Mbeumo and Fors and other attackers.

    It’s obviously a tactic to have your good technical players on the edge of the box to make something happen if the ball comes straight back out. It didn’t work yesterday because Belloumi messed up but who cares, people make mistakes and he’ll learn from it.
     
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  18. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

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    Belloumi was 40 yards out with the ball
    No where near their box
     
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  19. Tigerboy98

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    But we haven’t been getting comfortable beaten every week, we’ve lost twice this season to recent prem sides that will most likely be in the mix for promotion. But you’re right the booing doesn’t help at all, ridiculous reaction.

    Results are irrelevant at the moment, once performances improve results will follow imo.
     
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  20. Tigerboy98

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    Yeah exactly a mistake
     
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