Are we attacking ourselves?

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My take on this is that the vast majority of people are saying "the club" has authorised this, or "the club" has "bent over" for the Saudis with regards the ticket allocation etc without any real proof or substance to these claims.

Some people were calling for KLD to sell up when the pictures of the BCB were (deliberately) leaked on twitter, yet there is no evidence that he knew. The working theory appears to be that "the club" allowed their trusted contractors to do the work unsupervised and they took a punt/took the piss with the black and white signs. KLD refutes knowledge of this, but there are still some who are insistent that "the club" is at fault and we should "never forget" whilst pouring scorn on anything the club says now.

There is a lot of anger about and the media is picking up on elements of the story and positioning it to ridicule the club.

Whether will ever know the full truth is up for debate, but I think it's time we all put this behind us and focus on the rest of the season.
I believe that any time anyone puts s hite on here ( usually 1of 4 ) ask them to put the proof on or f uck off, there’s a lot of lads on here sick of listening to there negative s hite and then act as though they can’t remember doing it once it’s blown over.
 
I guarantee if we checked the same people bitching about BCB would have been the ones who did same about ownership, previous ownership, a succession of managers, a succession of players.

It’s always the same names and the same ‘type’. I don’t know if it’s an element of the club is ‘all they have’ in life or what, but the spouting of misinformation is welcomed and even revelled in by many as it give them a scarcely needed excuse to shout out ‘in love of the club’.

It’s gone on at levels for years. Anton was slated by many as a ‘fancy southern ****er’, I knew the lad personally as he lived in same building as me for a while and he was the most down to earth and sound kid you could imagine.

Richardson, Kenwyne and Sessegnon were slated despite being absolute levels above most of the players we had or had before or since.

Kit deals slated, sponsors slated, managerial appointments slated before they arrive at AOL, a ticketing change that all clubs and indeed all businesses are moving to turned into ‘club doesn’t give a **** about us’.

‘The club/owner are skint’ because they are being financially savvy. Players better than ours ‘not good enough’ players we have boo’d onto the park.

Fanzines going against the overwhelming majority and professing to be ‘our voice’.

I don’t think it goes on at any other club. I genuinely don’t.

The biggest damage you can do to anything, in any walk of life, is from the inside.
 
I guarantee if we checked the same people bitching about BCB would have been the ones who did same about ownership, previous ownership, a succession of managers, a succession of players.

It’s always the same names and the same ‘type’. I don’t know if it’s an element of the club is ‘all they have’ in life or what, but the spouting of misinformation is welcomed and even revelled in by many as it give them a scarcely needed excuse to shout out ‘in love of the club’.

It’s gone on at levels for years. Anton was slated by many as a ‘fancy southern ****er’, I knew the lad personally as he lived in same building as me for a while and he was the most down to earth and sound kid you could imagine.

Richardson, Kenwyne and Sessegnon were slated despite being absolute levels above most of the players we had or had before or since.

Kit deals slated, sponsors slated, managerial appointments slated before they arrive at AOL, a ticketing change that all clubs and indeed all businesses are moving to turned into ‘club doesn’t give a **** about us’.

‘The club/owner are skint’ because they are being financially savvy. Players better than ours ‘not good enough’ players we have boo’d onto the park.

Fanzines going against the overwhelming majority and professing to be ‘our voice’.

I don’t think it goes on at any other club. I genuinely don’t.

The biggest damage you can do to anything, in any walk of life, is from the inside.
Hopefully they might read this and keep their traps shut before they post<ok>
 
<doh> You genuinely believe that Beale is/will be an upgrade on Mowbray?
I like many on here didn't want beale but no way can you say that, we have to give him a chance and in the games he's been here has done better that the first few games mowbray had. Let's wait and see eh
 
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Only thing I can't agree with in that RR article is selling Wyke, didn't sell him did we? Iirc his contract finished we offered him a deal on similar but Wigan offered him loads more, the club weren't that bothered as Stewart was seen as an upgrade!
 
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I like many on here didn't want beale but no way can you say that, we have to give him a chance and in the games he's been here has done better that the first few games mowbray had. Let's wait and see eh
…yep, let’s see if Beale can secure us a play-off place, like Mowbray did.
 
Yep that's all we can do, mowbray got plaudits for reaching the play offs will you give beale the same if he does
Absolutely. We’re in 6th place now but once again there’s so many teams going for it. It’s gonna be tough.
 
What gets me is people excusing away their negative miserable views by claiming to be “realists”
I know man and if you’re satisfied overall or even rational you’re a happy clapper. They’ve made some balls ups but overall the club is in good hands. I don’t want KLD out. I’m buzzing we have a forward thinking approach at last: Not perfect but all can be sorted.
 
I've dithered around for days about whether I should post my opinion or not. Then I faffed around thinking whether to put it on the 'ambition' thread or another. I didn't want to derail them, hence this.

I've had a look around social media, etc and was finally pushed into posting by reading the 'Quinn's Bar' thread on RTG.

I totally understand all the frustration, anger, etc, regarding our progress, the coach situation, BCB, etc ...

... but surely there comes a point whereby we're just attacking ourselves and falling out.

We all really know, whether we like it or not, that KLD, KS, MB aren't going to be forced out by the relentless bile and hatred. So, imo, all it does is distract from the next game and the rest of the season. We know, from O'Nien's Twitter posts, that the players read what we post and it has to be demoralising imo.

I'm probably a bit too 'rose tinted' from some people but I grew up supporting the club when we'd defend it against any attacks and have our backs to the wall even when it all looked lost. It now looks like we're fighting against the club, and each other, to the point where other club's supporters are commenting on the infighting and laughing it up at our expense.

The club f*cked up, they've apologised and will hopefully speed up the improvements ...

... we're still in with a chance of the play-offs, we've all expressed our anger/disappointment//etc, so can't we now concentrate on the football, the Ipswich game and the transfer window.

Just a thought, shoot me down if I'm out of order.

Absolutely fkn ridiculously sensible my fine fellow. Well said and lets hope we ALL do get behind the team and the owners. I still think we can get promotion and its much more fun doing it via Wembley.
 
Hopefully they might read this and keep their traps shut before they post<ok>
I don't think they need to keep their trap shut but maybe use a bit of thought and reason of their own and do a little bit of research if needed to enable them to come to their own conclusions or opinions from a more balanced and educated point of view. Or they could just knee jerk write whatever **** drops into their head from totally unknown sources and tell all of us how ****e the club are for changing the pie supplier (seen that earlier) ha ha
 
Absolutely fkn ridiculously sensible my fine fellow. Well said and lets hope we ALL do get behind the team and the owners. I still think we can get promotion and its much more fun doing it via Wembley.

Isn't it daft that winning the league 30 points ahead is less fun and less profitable than scraping up via 6th place <laugh>
 
I know man and if you’re satisfied overall or even rational you’re a happy clapper. They’ve made some balls ups but overall the club is in good hands. I don’t want KLD out. I’m buzzing we have a forward thinking approach at last: Not perfect but all can be sorted.
Don’t think it’s wise to point out something someone’s said differently a few posts back, you’ll get told you are stalking him and he blocks you. <laugh>
 
All of them are awful, dont think there is one good SAFC fanzine or podcast. Roker Report, ALS, WMS all terrible.

ALS have been slating the club for a while now yet they allowed a mag youtuber in a mag shirt into their shop to record a video last week. They also have a poll on twitter today asking if Speakman is doing a good job.
I assume ALS are the same as that canny little magazine I would buy on my way to Roker Park? Used to like that. Me and my two brothers used to buy one between us.

I do no other social media other than this place. I am not on twitter, facebook, or any other shyte. I dont know what OTR is like, never been on. It takes me all my time to keep up with this place.

Are we attacking ourselves? Probably not for me. Gets a bit heated and extreme at times but I reckon it is mostly because people care. If it has any impact on a Billionaire owner with a clear idea of how he thinks he wants to run the club he is probably in the wrong job. When you are a top man, in a high profile gig, you need to handle criticism. Sure he can.
 
I am where you are, but my dismay at how the club is run amateurishly (not non-league as there are some great set ups see South Shields or Harrogate Town) and the BCB situation for 3 years now - culminating in the utter embarrassment of last week - means I will pay for a ticket and support my team, but I will no longer buy anything from SAFC within the ground or club shop as I no longer support the regime. The striker issue takes the piss too!
You seem to be completely ignoring the footballing side strange as this is the reason the club exists I will base my decisions on how the club is run on the pitch It’s being run better than I have known it in my 50 plus years of watching the lads. A progressive regime that has completely turned the club around from potential administration commercially they need to up their game but I’m sure that will come
 
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I don't think they need to keep their trap shut but maybe use a bit of thought and reason of their own and do a little bit of research if needed to enable them to come to their own conclusions or opinions from a more balanced and educated point of view. Or they could just knee jerk write whatever **** drops into their head from totally unknown sources and tell all of us how ****e the club are for changing the pie supplier (seen that earlier) ha ha

If players posted what they really believed O'Nien would've said.

'FFS, what a fkn nightmare that was! Ekwah looked like a nine year old seeing his first fanny and Hume played like Ireland's national fruit, a fkn potato. WTF was Jack Clarke on, it's normally amphetamines but today it was more like fkn sleeping tablets!!!