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Are we attacking ourselves?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jan 10, 2024.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    People never say 'without a care' but they want money spent without any idea about our finances.

    They ignore the fact that 'clubs we should copy', like Fulham, owe insane amounts to their owners or banks.

    Some were giving Everton as an example of how to challenge at the top not long back.

    They turn a blind eye to clubs who tried, failed and were left in L1 with no ground, no hope and no prospects.

    I've posted one of many such posts below, nothing personal to whoever posted it ... just an example.

    How many successful English clubs are run sustainably??
    To be competitive we need a rich generous owner, KLD isn’t in the same league financially as the successful premier league clubs and has no intention of splashing the cash.
     
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  2. Nig

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    Only time will tell.
     
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  3. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    20 league games to go, let’s see if Beale can squeeze us into a play-off place.
     
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    Which was the point of my thread about aims, we cannot and should not complete with state owned clubs, everywhere you look it is littered with mountains of debt.

    Even cubs that at a quick glance appear to have done it well have taken huge gambles - see Brentford with wages to turnover at 270% the year they got promoted.

    We should however be able to pose questions about the commercial side of the business, the caring club side of the business that has fell by the way side and isnt really improving
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I said weeks ago the Mag match was nothing but a nuisance ...

    ... without that our mentality regarding league matches would be much better imo.
     
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  6. Brainy Dose

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    Top post mate.
     
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  7. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    More common sense.
     
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    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    Your posts often make me smile. I can see why an ancient Chinese fella took your username.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I think it's improving and we're definitely not stagnating.

    The 'backstage access' has improved, the matchday coverage is better, the Avec initiative, etc, seems to show that, at least, someone is thinking. I suspect a lot of harm was done to staff morale, suppliers, etc, under the last regime.

    There's probably signed contracts there that'll outlive me <laugh>
     
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  10. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    People are deliberately making themselves miserable in a competition to be the most outraged, every comment dark and negative and it all adds defensive and pressure to the club and players and negative pressure never gets the best from people. It’s like people want to punish mistakes and every person wanting to make punish mistakes are making one. Better on here than ready to moan mind.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Mrs Smug deliberately seeks out news articles that enrage her <laugh>

    People seem to jump on SAFC related nonsense for the same reason.

    I suspect the scientists will soon name it as a 'syndrome' ... Smugulitus perhaps <laugh>
     
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  12. Nig

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    Just read a bit on that Quinn's bar thread.
    Fooking minging on there FFS.

    Moaning about the club trying to make some money god forbid <doh>

    £5 when you can watch it at home or the pub <laugh>

    Well it is a bar and you get a pint with that fee <doh>

    Unbelievable Jeff <laugh>
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how much cash our billionaire owner will be raking in from this latest con job <doh>
     
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    What gets me is people excusing away their negative miserable views by claiming to be “realists”
     
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  15. sheepman

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    He could be good he could be ****e. Too early to tell I have worries about some of his tactics so far but change always disrupts initially Let’s see how we are fairing in a couple of months. TM had hit a brick wall we were stagnating and it was t just lack of a striker
     
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  16. LD19SAFC

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    I agree about Mowbray. I was happy to see him go, I just expected more ambition when it came to his replacement. Beale was free and available, though…
     
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  17. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Yes I think he will be. Nobody can say for sure that’s a risk what you take when you employ a new manager especially someone young but what would we have achieved under Mowbray? If Beale had lost the games TM had this season people would be calling for his head already
     
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    sheepman Well-Known Member

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    I know what you mean. Initially very underwhelming and a few of us had watched his Rangers team which picked up results but was not very entertaining
    However just have to trust that he is the man they wanted for the right reasons. Unfortunately he is not really being given the time a "named" manager would by a lot of fans. Allardyce's team was absolutely ****e for the first 3 months only came good right at the end of the season. Jury is still out on Beale but we have to back him.
     
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    :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    But as many on here said at the time, they'd never heard of most of the other names we were linked with. So Beale was probably one of the better known ones from his time at Rangers. What's really happening is that people are judging him on a short stint in which he didn't fail but was slightly less successful than he might have been, rather than on the 20 odd year coaching career he's had at some massive clubs, including one of the biggest in Brazil.
     
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