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Would like Stephen Schumacher out of the people I've heard of, I think.

We very, very rarely appoint managers who are already in management jobs. As for managers from teams competing in the same league, I think Bruce was the last one. Maybe Durban before him?!.
 
We very, very rarely appoint managers who are already in management jobs. As for managers from teams competing in the same league, I think Bruce was the last one. Maybe Durban before him?!.

I do agree with you and I think its more likely to be somebody who isn't even a manager yet (or at least not at senior level).

That said, I dont think this appointment can be compared to any of the past. This is a completely new world for Sunderland
 
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I do agree with you and I think its more likely to be somebody who isn't even a manager yet (or at least not at senior level).

That said, I dont think this appointment can be compared to any of the past. This is a completely new world for Sunderland

It's a new world alright, but it feels the same old one too. Off the top of my napper I'd guess only Reidy has had more than four years in the last fifty seasons. An amazing stat if I've got it right.

There may of course, - there clearly were - a myriad reasons which do not apply now but which did affect the preceding chaos, and it may well be that there is a serene calm below the surface froth.

But looking from outside, any young coach who already has a record to make him an attractive target would consider this, and might think twice because of that record. Especially as it has occurred under every owner since the Collings. Perception is vital and young coaches need to be careful.

They don't get allowed many failures.
 
Jack Ross was "taken" from St Mirren as well, so there is recent precedent for us.

Like I say though, I do think somebody not employed as a first team manager is most likely
 
Jack Ross was "taken" from St Mirren as well, so there is recent precedent for us.

Like I say though, I do think somebody not employed as a first team manager is most likely
It will be interesting to see if there's any compensation paid for the replacement
 
Playing catch up, so may have already been answered / discussed.

I'm not buying that Burstow and others have ran to Speakman about the head coach and that's quickened the decision.

There where rumours of this when Neil snaked off and look what happened in the next game.

Rumours like this don't help anyone, least of all the player that's been named (Burstow I believe)
It didn't help, but it's been coming for months KLD did not want him as 1st choice.
 
Just my opinion but getting rid of Mowbray is a really poor decision, and in my opinion a naieve one. I am not going to buy into the conspiracies about player revolts etc. This smacks of a senior team deciding upon a direction of travel for the club, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Speakman and KLD talk about ambition and a high performance culture. Lets see their ambition now, they need a serious appointment here or they will look stupid. Anything less than playoffs for the new lad will be seen as failure. This could be a massive rod for their own backs. Needs to be someone in work for me, someone with a serious reputation. So far under KLD it has been coaches who are out of work, time to step up their game here in my opinion and back up words of ambition with an elite level coach.
 
Just my opinion but getting rid of Mowbray is a really poor decision, and in my opinion a naieve one. I am not going to buy into the conspiracies about player revolts etc. This smacks of a senior team deciding upon a direction of travel for the club, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Speakman and KLD talk about ambition and a high performance culture. Lets see their ambition now, they need a serious appointment here or they will look stupid. Anything less than playoffs for the new lad will be seen as failure. This could be a massive rod for their own backs. Needs to be someone in work for me, someone with a serious reputation. So far under KLD it has been coaches who are out of work, time to step up their game here in my opinion and back up words of ambition with an elite level coach.

I’m reserving judgment until we see who is appointed and how well they do. We’re still a Championship club, a big one sure. but still in the second tier which will limit who we can attract.

We overachieved last year but those performances coupled with the glimpses we have seen this season will hopefully attract an ambitious coach.

Time will tell but I trust these owners more than any others we have had in a long time.
 
Just my opinion but getting rid of Mowbray is a really poor decision, and in my opinion a naieve one. I am not going to buy into the conspiracies about player revolts etc. This smacks of a senior team deciding upon a direction of travel for the club, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Speakman and KLD talk about ambition and a high performance culture. Lets see their ambition now, they need a serious appointment here or they will look stupid. Anything less than playoffs for the new lad will be seen as failure. This could be a massive rod for their own backs. Needs to be someone in work for me, someone with a serious reputation. So far under KLD it has been coaches who are out of work, time to step up their game here in my opinion and back up words of ambition with an elite level coach.
Agree, Speakman has made a rod for his own back. It didn't have to happen like this, hopefully the next coach will take us to the next level.
 
Just my opinion but getting rid of Mowbray is a really poor decision, and in my opinion a naieve one. I am not going to buy into the conspiracies about player revolts etc. This smacks of a senior team deciding upon a direction of travel for the club, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Speakman and KLD talk about ambition and a high performance culture. Lets see their ambition now, they need a serious appointment here or they will look stupid. Anything less than playoffs for the new lad will be seen as failure. This could be a massive rod for their own backs. Needs to be someone in work for me, someone with a serious reputation. So far under KLD it has been coaches who are out of work, time to step up their game here in my opinion and back up words of ambition with an elite level coach.

They needed a steady appointment when Neil left - the fact Mowbray was unattached was a bonus. A very good appointment given that situation as he proved.
 
Still fella making me a bit nervous like. I find it really hard to believe someone cam be a top manager without ever playing the game. The lads done amazing so far and hopefully continues to do so, but I'd be nervous
 
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Still fella making me a bit nervous like. I find it really hard to believe someone cam be a top manager without ever playing the game. The lads done amazing so far and hopefully continues to do so, but I'd be nervous
Kieran mckenna looks one of the best young coaches in england, never played at senior level

Phil parkinson played over 500 senior games and was a shocking manager for us