Summer window

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Have done some reading on buybacks and to clarify:

1. It's unaffected by this new deal Cirkin has signed; it's a completely separate contract between the clubs only.
2. As a result of 1, even if Spurs do activate it, Cirkin has the final say whether he wants to go back as he is not party to the "buyback contract" between the clubs. If they can't convince him, he stays [EDIT: This might be wrong, different sources say different things. I think it depends on how the deal was structured?]
3. The Sunderland Echo reported that the buyback clause expires on 30 June 2024. No guarantee they're right, but it would make sense. That gives Spurs three years from Dennis signing with us which seems like a fair compromise for all parties involved.

This is a good read, I think people are maybe mixing up first refusals and buy-back clauses;

https://www.mondaq.com/uk/sport/421830/football-transfers-buy-back-clauses-explained

 

[The Professor]

It'll definitely have a time limit on it, otherwise he could grow to be worth well in excess of that fee and Spurs could sweep in and get him well below market value. Not a chance we'd be silly enough to agree to that.

It wont be longer than his original contract

 

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Fantastic news. Both of our full backs tied down long term.

They're both nailed on starters for me and can also be that for us in the Premier League. Tough defenders, first and foremost which I really like. Both have the ability to play in a back 3 too, which gives us a lot of flexibility.

 

[Milton Nunez's Thong]

My issue with the buy back clause is that they could do a deal to bring him back and sell him on at huge profit to a club he is happy joining. They could off him a hefty lump of their profit to sweeten the deal too. Its happened before - I think perhaps we did when we signed on of the German lads.

 

[John Wick]

He’s too busy cruising down the street in his 6.4 though.

Going to the park to get the scoop? Knuckle heads down there cold, shooting some hoops?

 

[John Wick]

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Very happy about this.

 

[John Wick]

Agree. It's something that I was really strong about in the Donald era. People saying we couldn't stop the best young talent leaving.

If you create the environment, engage correctly and provide structured opportunities, they won't want to leave.

Thats where we are now. Class.

...... if you build it, they will come

 

[Nads]

Thing is, everyone knows the size and potential of this club.

Our top players could all move to PL, any one of them signing shows that they see what we see within the club and the direction and ambition.

Regardless of the clause the fact he’s signed on shows where the club is heading.

The lad is a quality l, quality footballer.

 

[Oliver's Army]

Thing is, everyone knows the size and potential of this club.

Our top players could all move to PL, any one of them signing shows that they see what we see within the club and the direction and ambition.

Regardless of the clause the fact he’s signed on shows where the club is heading.

The lad is a quality l, quality footballer.

Both Hume and Cikin have mentioned this being the best place to be for young players to develop themselves. Great to see this change in culture is paying off. Long may it continue.

 

[Nads]

Both Hume and Cikin have mentioned this being the best place to be for young players to develop themselves. Great to see this change in culture is paying off. Long may it continue.

Harte said similar when discussing Jack as well.

From where we were 2 years ago, chalk and cheese.

 

[Iain]

Wonder what happens with the buy back clause now ?

It will still be in, the terms of a sale has nothing to do the the players personal terms, 2 totally different things mate, the buy back and any sell on fees will be locked in stone till he leaves

 

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[Hudson92]

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Good head on his shoulders that tied in with his ability the sky is the limit for the lad

 

[Iain]

This is the way it works imo. No way will the player being bought back have no say in the move!

Exactly, he has no contract with spurs at the moment so without signing one he can't be their player, simple fact is that if he wants to stay then he stays

 

[marcusblackcat]

My issue with the buy back clause is that they could do a deal to bring him back and sell him on at huge profit to a club he is happy joining. They could off him a hefty lump of their profit to sweeten the deal too. It’s happened before - I think perhaps we did when we signed on of the German lads.

When does it expire? Has to have a shelf life! Let’s just hope we keep him until it dies, or there’s something written in that increases it over time!

 

[Oliver's Army]

When does it expire? Has to have a shelf life! Let’s just hope we keep him until it dies, or there’s something written in that increases it over time!

The main theory floating around is it would last the length of his original contract he signed with us which would be summer 2024.

 

[TeamOfTalents]

When does it expire? Has to have a shelf life! Let’s just hope we keep him until it dies, or there’s something written in that increases it over time!

Next summer. It was 3 years, length of original deal.

 

[Essayyeffcee]

This article explains about the buy back clause. Apparently its there until June 2024

https://www.si.com/soccer/sunderlan...QiW4Eq6aqq4vj3nJxgcZPLYca0SAR4mvHGOHOT7UENETg

 

[Nads]

That’ll do for me.

Cirks wants to be here, so they can go eat a dick.

 

[Mackem 10.1]

He could decline the move to Brighton as it’s a new transfer but he couldn’t refuse the buy back to Spurs as it’s already a negotiated clause. Cirkin will’ve agreed to the terms when the transfer to us was arranged

Normally a buyback clause is just a set fee and first refusal, the player can still turn the move down