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Pellegrino in or out?

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ImpSaint said:
The worst thing is that while MP2 needs to go, who is there to replace him?

I actually dreamt last night that Benitez had been appointed and in my dream I was "aarghing." Woke up to realise it was a dream.
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Agree with every word of your post, Imps. This stood out. Rafa would be my go-to manager every time. How much, Newcastle?
 
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Saints Fan4Life said:
I'm convinced Frasers current problems are to do with the abuse he gets from our fans.
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He has not shown the form of an International Keeper for two seasons now, I have sympathy for him and I wish that I could shoot the morons that jeer him, but as a professional he can't be so sensitive that it affects his performance so badly and the team can't afford it either.
 
Missing Lambo said:
Agree with every word of your post, Imps. This stood out. Rafa would be my go-to manager every time. How much, Newcastle?
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But Benitez is another defensive manager. Houllier took the attacking Liverpool and turned them into a defensive unit and Benitez just continued it.

I will be honest. I do want pretty football. Even if a defensive option would secure more points. Adkins and Poccetino played exciting attacking football. Koeman played hoofball, Puel and MP2 play very defensive minded football.

I preferred the first 2 despite the 3rd gaining higher placings and the 4th taking us to a cup final!

I bought into all the sales pitch so I want to see it. With the old Saints I cheered WGS on despite the football not being that pretty because at the time what else could we expect? No-one was trying to sell us as on the verge of breaking the ceiling with a reputation for the prettiest of pretty football back then.

If WGS was manager now with the whole "branding" the club has sold everyone he would be getting the same moans as Puel and MP2.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Very easy to vote for that when you don't have to finance his leaving or identify and employ his replacement. The club may have a list of possible replacements, but are they available? All this poll shows is that fans are pissed off.
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Not a lot out there at the moment it is true.

Harry Redknapp?
 
I`m usually a glass half full kind of guy, but MP2`s departure is a matter of when. I think we have a very good squad, but he can`t (and never has) got a tune out of them. We should be stronger than last year with Lemina and Hoedt, and with Gabi, Austin and VVD all fit. But we are worse, and I don`t see where the spark or motivation is going to come from to change things. Would the board trust him to get involved in signings in the transfer window ? - I doubt it - so lets get the next manager lined up. Our three wins this season have not been clear cut - a last minute pen against 10-man WHU, a solitary goal at Palace who had the better of the chances, and a worldy that separated us from a dire WBA - without them we`d be in deep do-do, and none of those was down to nouse from MP2.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
He has not shown the form of an International Keeper for two seasons now, I have sympathy for him and I wish that I could shoot the morons that jeer him, but as a professional he can't be so sensitive that it affects his performance so badly and the team can't afford it either.
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I'll just add a little anecdote to this, I used to stand at the Milton Road near the corner next to the tunnel entrance in the 70s. It was the season after we won the cup and we were struggling in mid table in the old Second Division and the locals were getting restless. The "whipping boy" of the day was Jim McCalliog and he used to get dog's abuse walking off the pitch from a few twats around me. One game he must've decided he'd had enough and flashed a "**** off" V sign at them! (the equivalent of flipping the finger now). The moron's attitude changed towards him and the abuse became more jokey and more like banter, he obviously earned their respect. Maybe Fraser should show the same attitude.
 
Saints_Alive said:
I'll just add a little anecdote to this, I used to stand at the Milton Road near the corner next to the tunnel entrance in the 70s. It was the season after we won the cup and we were struggling in mid table in the old Second Division and the locals were getting restless. The "whipping boy" of the day was Jim McCalliog and he used to get dog's abuse walking off the pitch from a few twats around me. One game he must've decided he'd had enough and flashed a "**** off" V sign at them! (the equivalent of flipping the finger now). The moron's attitude changed towards him and the abuse became more jokey and more like banter, he obviously earned their respect. Maybe Fraser should show the same attitude.
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Didn't do Kelvin any harm (anyone remember Sheff Wed away?)
 
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ImpSaint said:
The day we sacked Adkins all the "Southampton Way" and "family run ethical club" salespitch became garbage and like you say, we became just another wannabe PL club.

Sack this manager or not is by the by really. TBH I'm sick of hearing the salespitch. [HASHTAG]#wemarchon[/HASHTAG] = bollocks.
#wewillkeeppretendingwearesomethingwearen'ttokeepthemediaonsideandgiveoursupporterssomethingtorepeatandbelieve.

As for get behind the team and support them? Those were days when we had a team we hoped would hit the top half but more likely not get relegated. A teamof players that barring a couple of gems were not at a level to really compete. A club that did not constantly talk itself up as on the verge of greatness.

As for Forster. Yes maybe he is playing worse because of the lack of support he is getting. Coming from a low bar though. If he was getting cheered on and encouraged he would still come for crosses and flap or drop the ball and he still wouldn't be able to reach shots just inside the posts despite his giant stature.

The worst thing is that while MP2 needs to go, who is there to replace him?

I actually dreamt last night that Benitez had been appointed and in my dream I was "aarghing." Woke up to realise it was a dream.

Until Saints hold their hands up and state we are not on the verge of greatness and we are what we are with aspirations to get better then expectation is going to continue to see reaction that we see now.

If you keep telling the fanbase that we are now in that 7th/8th position then any less is going to see a reaction.

If you keep banging on about "the Southampton way" then unpretty football and outright boredom is going to see a reaction.

If you keep banging on about "the pathway" then starting 11s with none of "our own" are going to see a reaction.

If you keep on banging on about all 3 of the above together then you put yourself in a very hard place as all of the above are going to be very hard to achieve at the same time!!!
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Cracking post Imps <applause>

Particularly agree with the last bit how it's the club is responsible for raising expectations. Not so much an issue for fans like me who never bought into the nonsense about regularly competing in Europe and qualifying for CL etc.

But plenty of fans did buy into it, and that is part of the reason that expectations are so high now among sections of the fanbase.
 
Saints_Alive said:
I'll just add a little anecdote to this, I used to stand at the Milton Road near the corner next to the tunnel entrance in the 70s. It was the season after we won the cup and we were struggling in mid table in the old Second Division and the locals were getting restless. The "whipping boy" of the day was Jim McCalliog and he used to get dog's abuse walking off the pitch from a few twats around me. One game he must've decided he'd had enough and flashed a "**** off" V sign at them! (the equivalent of flipping the finger now). The moron's attitude changed towards him and the abuse became more jokey and more like banter, he obviously earned their respect. Maybe Fraser should show the same attitude.
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Maybe Fraser should throw a water bottle at his critics, Boruc style.
 
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