Off Topic General Election Special

Stuns me how 99% of people don't seem to understand this is how UK politics work.

 

But you didn't answer my question. How is it fair for Jeremy Corbyn to charge me a higher percentage of tax than others?

As a country we should spend what we get in, and everyone should pay a fair amount towards this. Every single person should pay the same percentage, that is fair!

The issue is you have misconception, that big businesses are a bad thing. Look at Amazon, they should pay more tax I agree. However, they employ 10,000 people who are therefore paying tax, who are then spending their money in local shops. There is a reason most economists believe in a free markets without nationalisation. Nationalisation doesn't work in practice.

One point I would like to make is Junior NHS staff having a poor quality of life. In my day to day job I speak to Junior doctors and a monthly basis, and half of them have bought great houses, manage their money well and working towards having a great future and they are happy.

I didn't go to Uni and had a zero hour contract and was paid £5.00 an hour, I still managed to save over £300 a month which I then put towards my first home, from there I have managed to do very well for myself. I didn't suddenly think I was on a zero hour contract because of the failings of Amazon. It was up to me to make a better life for myself.

We clearly have different views, and I appreciate that, and I want start calling you a selfish twat like some people on here! At least we are having a debate, and you aren't calling me a rich posh tory twat!

 

A-haaaaaaaa!

 

What I'm getting at here is that it doesn't matter who gets the most cheers or jeers in the house. The important thing is their policies and what they'll do for the country. The attempts by the Tories and the right wing media to turn it into a popularity contest while Labour focus firmly on their policies is very telling.

 

But I'd be voting for the party that has those two **** wits as potential PM and Home Secretary.

No way Jose.

Corbo is a lying weasel, any mug can see that.

May is a lying slag bag, any mug can see that.

I have no words for Abbott.

 

But they bring jobs, they benefit the economy just by being here (if they were). That would be better than them not being here at all.

I do not condone tax evasion whatsoever and it's grossly unfair that the big multinational companies can get away with it whilst our honest local businesses have to pay more. But from an economy point of view it's better to have them paying £47m in tax and employing hundreds/thousands of people than telling them to **** off on a point of principle. Anything is better than nothing.

 

What you're getting at is pulling off an Allamesque stunt and going off on a tangent.

How does Jeremy Corbyn filling rallies and going on tv help the country? Why don't you go back and challenge everyone who's made that point too?

 

I think it's fair that people pay what they can afford. I think it's fair that we tax companies more for paying ridiculous salaries to people who do **** all.

I can understand your argument for everyone paying the same tax, though I don't agree with it and I doubt it'd be affordable for those at the bottom.

But my question was really just that if it's unfair for the rich to subsidise the poor, how on earth is it fair for it to be the other way around as it is now?

 

The poor aren't subsidising the rich. The rich are paying 45% income tax, the poor are paying 20%.

And if you think company owners and directors sit around doing **** all, you really have no clue of the world outside your cushy little office job which you have because of some bodies hard work. Owning and running a business is an incredibly time consuming and stressful thing to do.

 

I think the point those people were making is that it shows he's honest and absolutely means what he says. He doesn't need to hide behind his friends in the media writing cringey headlines to back him. He can just turn up, say it like it is and people go nuts for it. The Tories resort to dirty tactics like clearing a building of staff and then getting some stooges in to pretend to be staff who work there and cheer for everything May says. I'd say that's absolutely something to consider when voting for who you'd trust to run the country, whereas "she's strong" absolutely isn't because it's meaningless.

 

He's honest?



Grow up.

 

I'm sure it is for some people. And then there's the people who are a director of 7 businesses and get a massive salary from each. People like that twat from BHS. The company goes under, everyone loses their jobs but he's fine. Yeah that's fair.

 

But how does it help the country?

 

You really think he isn't? If anything he regularly damages his own cause by being too honest.

 

You are thinking of <0.1%. There are ruthless selfish ****s in all walks of life at every level of the income scale. What about the other 99.9%?

 

Being trustworthy means people believe they'll do what they promise. If they do what they promise that helps the country, assuming the manifesto actually has some promise.

 

Yes they're the people I'm talking about and that's the kind of people who the fatcat tax is aimed at. Focus on policies.

 

Russ Abbots gone! Will it be too late for the reds?