Match Day Thread World Group B

[NewcastleTiger]

I think he's in overrated territory with England fans because he's in that zone where he's not playing so therefore he's the answer to everything and so much better than those who are playing. We do this time and time again and never seem to grow beyond it. Last summer it was Grealish and Sancho. Now they're not exciting and new any more so we've moved on to Maddison, and whilst he's injured it's Foden. If Bellingham wasn't starting he'd be the answer. These are all top quality players who can't all play at once, which we should be seeing as a good thing.

But they aren’t, Foden has decent performances in his career by his standards that would be Mount’s best. No one’s saying he’s the answer they’re just saying why isn’t a player of that calibre who we don’t have anyone else like not getting a game when we play 90 minutes and create **** all

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

Not having a meltdown.
I would like to see us go for it, to be as good as we could be, not the boring negative crap we saw tonight. Southgate is a dour boring negative manager

But they aren’t, Foden has decent performances in his career by his standards that would be Mount’s best. No one’s saying he’s the answer they’re just saying why isn’t a player of that calibre who we don’t have anyone else like not getting a game when we play 90 minutes and create **** all

Probably created **** all cos it was the banana skin tie of the group and all we needed was to avoid defeat to stay on track to go through top of the group...

In that context I would have set us up for a clean sheet first and foremost - especially showing the defensive frailties against Iran where we went for it.

We're no more or less likely to win the cup after the USA game than we were following the Iran game.

Some reactions and bile spouted are just ridiculous.

Avoid losing to Wales by 4 goals and we're through.

Job done. Calm down.

 

[AlRawdah]

Foden came on against Iran and gave the ball away practically every time he received it. That’s why he didn’t play against USA I would think.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

Probably created **** all cos it was the banana skin tie of the group and all we needed was to avoid defeat to stay on track to go through top of the group...

In that context I would have set us up for a clean sheet first and foremost - especially showing the defensive frailties against Iran where we went for it.

We're no more or less likely to win the cup after the USA game than we were following the Iran game.

Some reactions and bile spouted are just ridiculous.

Avoid losing to Wales by 4 goals and we're through.

Job done. Calm down.

Yes losing 3-0 to Wales and qualifying would be very much job done.

 

[PLT]

But they aren’t, Foden has decent performances in his career by his standards that would be Mount’s best. No one’s saying he’s the answer they’re just saying why isn’t a player of that calibre who we don’t have anyone else like not getting a game when we play 90 minutes and create **** all

That just isn't true and this is exactly the overrating I'm talking about. You're inflating one player's capabilities and playing down the rest, because he's the current flavour.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

Foden came on against Iran and gave the ball away practically every time he received it. That’s why he didn’t play against USA I would think.

Think I watched a different game. Foden had a good spell when coming on. Each to their own view of course.

 

[Kalman]

That just isn't true and this is exactly the overrating I'm talking about. You're inflating one player's capabilities and playing down the rest, because he's the current flavour.

It really isn’t. Southgate benching Foden would be like France benching Mbappe. He’s the most technically-gifted and talented player in the whole England squad and he’s sat on the bench playing second fiddle to a player like Mount who isn’t half as talented.

 

[bradymk2]

It really isn’t. Southgate benching Foden would be like France benching Mbappe. He’s the most technically-gifted and talented player in the whole England squad and he’s sat on the bench playing second fiddle to a player like Mount who isn’t half as talented.

Really comparing fodens
effect vs mbappe?

Mbappe is the best player in the world

 

[Drew]

I’m not overly familiar with how Man City have been setting up recently, but are Foden and Mount even competing for the same positions?

Foden has never struck me as someone who you would play as an out and out midfielder, he’s much more attacking, whereas that’s exactly what Mount is doing?

It’d be interesting to see Foden as part of the forward line, but I think Saka and Sterling deserved to start against the US and you’re not dropping Kane. Id like to see Foden against Wales though.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

I’m not overly familiar with how Man City have been setting up recently, but are Foden and Mount even competing for the same positions?

Foden has never struck me as someone who you would play as an out and out midfielder, he’s much more attacking, whereas that’s exactly what Mount is doing?

It’d be interesting to see Foden as part of the forward line, but I think Saka and Sterling deserved to start against the US and you’re not dropping Kane. Id like to see Foden against Wales though.

I’d drop Kane if he keeps on hanging around midfield and not in the striking role.

 

[Drew]

I’d drop Kane if he keeps on hanging around midfield and not in the striking role.

To be fair I would have at least brought Foden on against the US. I think that’s a bigger problem than not starting him.

 

[PLT]

I’m not overly familiar with how Man City have been setting up recently, but are Foden and Mount even competing for the same positions?

Foden has never struck me as someone who you would play as an out and out midfielder, he’s much more attacking, whereas that’s exactly what Mount is doing?

It’d be interesting to see Foden as part of the forward line, but I think Saka and Sterling deserved to start against the US and you’re not dropping Kane. Id like to see Foden against Wales though.

Yep, this is the point. Anyone who pays a bit of attention will have known before the tournament started that Foden wasn't going to start in midfield. There was a chance he'd start ahead of Sterling but Sterling was always favourite because of his track record for England. I much prefer Foden to Sterling as a player personally but I think Southgate likes having out and out wingers. Foden seems to sit in an awkward spot where he's not really a winger but that's the only position he regularly plays for his club.

 

[PLT]

I’d drop Kane if he keeps on hanging around midfield and not in the striking role.

This one gets me as well. That's been Kane's game for the last 5 years or so, and he's very good at it. But whenever Tottenham or England lose people always say it's because he was dropping too deep. It's what he always does!

 

[Kalman]

Really comparing fodens
effect vs mbappe?

Mbappe is the best player in the world

He’s the best player in France, not the world.

 

[Drew]

Yep, this is the point. Anyone who pays a bit of attention will have known before the tournament started that Foden wasn't going to start in midfield. There was a chance he'd start ahead of Sterling but Sterling was always favourite because of his track record for England. I much prefer Foden to Sterling as a player personally but I think Southgate likes having out and out wingers. Foden seems to sit in an awkward spot where he's not really a winger but that's the only position he regularly plays for his club.

I don’t envy Southgate because he’s got so much attacking talent but limited positions to use them and it’s clear from the start he’s always said tournaments are to navigate and not to try and blast through.

 

[bradymk2]

He’s the best player in France, not the world.

And what has foden done to be as vital to england as mbappe
Who has 7 world cup goals already to his name

And he is the best in the world

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

Yes losing 3-0 to Wales and qualifying would be very much job done.

We won't. But the draw gives us the leeway, hence job done vs USA.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

We won't. But the draw gives us the leeway, hence job done vs USA.

Guess so. Need to step up 3 or 4 gears in the midfield and attack.

 

[Kalman]

And what has foden done to be as vital to england as mbappe
Who has 7 world cup goals already to his name

And he is the best in the world

God, this forum is never short of its degenerate and deranged alcoholics.

 

[bradymk2]

God, this forum is never short of its degenerate and deranged alcoholics.

think you must be on the white lightening to compare foden not playing for england to mbappe not playing for france