People just can’t see the contradiction in saying , he could organise , he could lead , got stuck in , put his head in , kept it simple but he was a poor footballer . All them qualities are part of a footballer - people mean he couldn’t drop his shoulder and beat a man and score 20 a season .. which is 100% true, but neither can about 75% of most footballers . The debate was never was Ian Ashbee a skillfull player, no he wasn’t - he was a good player though , in his own way . Anyway I can feel my 2007 frustration resurfacing , we signed anyone yet?