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[Fez]

Can I just remind posters that I do not agree with the name change. I have said that I will not attend Hull Tigers fixtures. That may change in the future, I don't know, but at this moment in time I have no desire to.

The way to stop all of this has always been the same. Either buy Assem Allam out or come up with another income stream that he feels is worth considering. The point that many do not see is that we could have a worse problem under new ownership. What would stop any owner moving the club? Treating it like a franchise? The FA? They are up against it at the moment. Their biggest provider of income wants more say in the governance of the sport and the money that is sloshing around from tv rights has far more influence than supporters.

We all do what we do, it's an individual thing.

What revenue stream - I have never seen anything credible to endorse the name-change proposal as an added revenue stream - maybe the opposite. Any club can be sold at any time, we can only fight the causes before us with this owner and that is the name-change - it always has been for me.

 

[ElTigre]

You said (based on your chats with some City fans) that the FA like us being in the PL. Why would PL rivals care? Why would (envious?) lower league representatives want us to remain in the PL?

I think that you need to read through the posts.

Where did I say this?

I think that the BPL in India trip showed some degree of sanction.

Generally in conversations that I have had about the name change, there does seem to be an acceptance that the FA will allow it to go ahead. The views expressed to me by several supporters is that they like us being in the top flight and if the price paid is a change in the clubs name, they may not like it but they will not stop going if it changes.

You said the FA like us being in the top flight. Just because you don't remember saying that nonsense doesn't mean you didn't say it.

 

[The Omega Man]

You said the FA like us being in the top flight. Just because you don't remember saying that nonsense doesn't mean you didn't say it.

" The views expressed to me by several supporters is that they like us being in the top flight and if the price paid is a change in the clubs name, they may not like it but they will not stop going if it changes."

Read this again. The views expressed to me by several supporters!!

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

Utterly disgraceful by the plastics and clueless muppets. No proper / decent or genuine fan would stoop so low.

All the boo-ers can now go and ""do one"" imo. Deano is well within his rights to agree with the name change without the boos.

 

[The FRENCH TICKLER]

Didn't be call us Hull Tigers on Goals on Sunday the other day too? Several times in fact?

I didn't boo him. .

Correct re.GOS.

 

[The Omega Man]

I agree, it is, so don't bring it into the public domain when it is no more than some opinion, unless they are prepared to share that opinion. Or are you telling, me, us, that you are talking to important people and we should be impressed?

You have stated on here that you don't attend home matches in protest against the name change. I talk to several people from the club, the OSC, HCSS and HCST at most games. I am not trying to impress, just stating that from my point of view and in my opinion there has been a sea change in how the people who I speak to see the name change going. Just in the supporters who sit in the same row as me there is a change. I don't even know who they are, but they are not the flask and blanket brigade, they do not like the name change, but feel that it will happen.

As I said the conversations this week have been about the banner and it generally led on to the attitude of the club towards supporters and moved on to the name change as it nearly always does.

 

[Obadiah]

Can I just remind posters that I do not agree with the name change. I have said that I will not attend Hull Tigers fixtures. That may change in the future, I don't know, but at this moment in time I have no desire to.

The way to stop all of this has always been the same. Either buy Assem Allam out or come up with another income stream that he feels is worth considering. The point that many do not see is that we could have a worse problem under new ownership. What would stop any owner moving the club? Treating it like a franchise? The FA? They are up against it at the moment. Their biggest provider of income wants more say in the governance of the sport and the money that is sloshing around from tv rights has far more influence than supporters.

If he's prepared to consider alternative income streams then he needs to step back and invite the new supporters' trust to a meeting to discuss the future. He may have done this already but every time the heat gets turned up it becomes more and more difficult to find a mutually beneficial solution.

 

[The Omega Man]

If he's prepared to consider alternative income streams then he needs to step back and invite the new supporters' trust to a meeting to discuss the future. He may have done this already but every time the heat gets turned up it becomes more and more difficult to find a mutually beneficial solution.

There is no way that Assem Allam will speak with HCST. Its a false hope. The Communitty Asset application adds just another nail in the coffin.

 

[Tobes]

It's a weak point in either of your takes, as it lacks a great deal of integrity - you seem to be intimating that it is a good thing to work for someone doing something you fundamentally disagree with. IF DW agrees with it now, then so be it; but if it's okay with you, I don't.

But it is still not our bloody name! It is a lie and I would prefer a club ambassador to tell the truth; in fact it would be good if we could get the owners to do that.

I really am not interested in who you saw at the club. I have quoted my posts and I am very clear about his private life, it is his, it is private and I wish him luck with it - I would prefer that he keeps it private, too.

He talks openly about his depression and challenges with alcohol and I applaud him for it as it takes courage and it might help another sufferer. The fact that you would prefer him to 'kept it private' and suggest they he's even using it to somehow promote himself, says all it all, ignorant fool

 

[originallambrettaman]

But who do you speak to about it other than on here Fez?

At least two influential members of CTWD have said to me that they now think Assem Allam will succeed. Even if it is rejected now there is nothing in the FA rules to stop any number of applications by a club, it could apply every season and unless Assem Allam can find a buyer willing to pay what he wants for the club, what has he got to lose by resubmitting his application time and time again.

Name them please.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

Name them please.

Thing 1 and Thing 2

 

[Happy Tiger]

Perhaps the proof is the twitter account Hulltigersindia which has 352 followers out of a population of 1.2 billon.

Would you like to start a conversation about how many people sign up for a thing out of the total pool available?

Here's a clue: CTWD membership.

Over you to Einstein.

 

[Happy Tiger]

CTWD have lost some credibility, yes, but not from the people you may think. If the FA changes its mind we'll see what Hull City Supporters Trust do, and if anything replaces it.

Surely, as they seem to think the Allams should do over the first decision, they won't be hypocritical and they'll accept it with good grace?

No?

 

[originallambrettaman]

Surely, as they seem to think the Allams should do over the first decision, they won't be hypocritical and they'll accept it with good grace?

No?

There's only one person lacking any grace and he's called Assem.

The decision was made, our owner is trying his best to ignore it, petulant child that he is.

 

[The Omega Man]

Name them please.

No, it was said to me in private and it will remain that way. The jist of the conversations was that the fight was a long way from being over. To be honest OLM, I do not even know how much involvement or influence they have in HCST. I doubt that there are many in HCST who know me anyway as I said the conversation was mainly about the banner and supporter involvement. Remember your inside view of who has or had influence in CTWD and mine from the outside may differ.

 

[Pat E O'Dors]

He talks openly about his depression and challenges with alcohol and I applaud him for it as it takes courage and it might help another sufferer. The fact that you would prefer him to 'kept it private' and suggest they he's even using it to somehow promote himself, says all it all, ignorant fool

No. What he did was take his tales of woe to the papers to see who would give him the highest financial reward for his "plight".
It had **** all to do with helping another sufferer imo.

 

[swftiger]

Would you like to start a conversation about how many people sign up for a thing out of the total pool available?

Here's a clue: CTWD membership.

Over you to Einstein.

Didn't think CTWD existed like Hull Tigers?

 

[originallambrettaman]

No, it was said to me in private and it will remain that way. The jist of the conversations was that the fight was a long way from being over. To be honest OLM, I do not even know how much involvement or influence they have in HCST. I doubt that there are many in HCST who know me anyway as I said the conversation was mainly about the banner and supporter involvement. Remember your inside view of who has or had influence in CTWD and mine from the outside may differ.

Fine, I'll assume it wasn't actually any influential member of CTWD.

As you were.

 

[highpeak tiger]

Over you to Einstein

Dont think he does either, any more

 

[MusingTiger]

The FA and the club have gone to arbitration over the process of changing the name of the playing name.

The rules did/do not mention having to undertake a poll.

You're talking rubbish mate, there's no legal crux revolving around the poll. It wasn't even part of Hull City's submission to the FA, and the PL's guidelines don't specifically ask for one.