Which members of the FA council do you think give a flying **** about us being in the premier? Leader of FA Council B W Bright, Kent FA Chairman G Dyke Vice-ChairmenNational Game: R Burden, Gloucestershire FA Professional Game: D Gill, Manchester United FC Life/Senior Vice-Presidents M M Armstrong, Huntingdonshire FA WT Annable, Nottinghamshire FA RE Barston, Leicestershire & Rutland FA RG Berridge, Bedfordshire FA JA Christopher, Berks & Bucks FA K Compton, Derbyshire FA F Hannah, OBE, Manchester FA D Henson, Devon FA AJ Hobbs, Somerset FA PS Hough, Dorset FA FLJ Hunter, Liverpool FA DJ Insole, CBE, Cambridge University FA RW Kiddell, OBE, JP, ACII, Norfolk FA R E Maughan, Northumberland FA T Myatt, Staffordshire FA P Rushton, Worcestershire FA C J Saunders, Independent Schools FA L F J Smith, Surrey FA C B Taylor, Barnsley FC G Thompson, OBE, JP, Sheffield & Hallamshire FA JJ Waterall, Nottinghamshire FA B Walden, Northamptonshire FA N White, BEM, FSCA, Liverpool FC Vice-Presidents (6) B J Adshead, Staffordshire FA PR Barnes, Dagenham & Redbridge FC B W Bright, Kent FA R F Burden, Gloucestershire FA MR Leggett, Worcestershire FA Sir D G Richards, The Premier League Representatives of The Premier League (8)D Barnard (Chelsea FC) M Byrne (Sunderland AFC) D Eales (Tottenham Hotspur FC) P Faulkner (Aston Villa) P Alexander (Premier League) I Gazidis (Arsenal) D Gill (Manchester Utd FC) TBC Representatives of The Football League (8)A J Ambler (Millwall FC) S R Bowker CBE (Independent) G Clarke (FL Chairman) K Lamb (Middlesbrough FC) I Lenagan (Oxford United FC) J Mostyn (Bournemouth AFC) J Nixon (Carlisle United) J Rodwell (Notts County FC) Divisional RepresentativesDivision 1 - D Robinson, Billingham Synthonia FC Division 2 - R Coar, Blackburn Rovers FC Division 3 - A Shaw, Altrincham FC Division 4 - J Moxey, Wolverhampton Wanderers FC Division 5 - P M Hough, Doncaster Rovers FC Division 6 - A Neville, Leicester City FC Division 7 - S Webb, Ipswich Town FC Division 8 - C Reeves, Poole Town FC Division 9 - IL Beeks MBE, JP Wycombe Wanderers FC Division 10 - JD Pearce, Bognor Regis Town FC County Association RepresentativesBedfordshire - R Robinson Berks & Bucks - RA Lipscombe Birmingham - M J Penn Cambridgeshire - R Pawley Cheshire - DD Edmunds Cornwall - G Lee Cumberland - G Turrell Derbyshire - F McArdle Devon - C Davey Dorset - S Whittle Durham - JC Topping East Riding - J Suddards Essex - MB Game Gloucestershire - R Schafer Hampshire - EJ Ward Herefordshire - RJ Perks Hertfordshire - M Bayliss Huntingdonshire - MC Frost Kent - PCB Smith Lancashire - WB Warburton Leicestershire & Rutland - D Jamieson Lincolnshire - RC Jackson Liverpool - D Horlick London - AJ Sharples Manchester - JB Halford Middlesex - PJ Clayton Norfolk - S Turner North Riding - MSM Birt Northamptonshire - R Cotter Northumberland - E A Wright Nottinghamshire - Ms E Oram Oxfordshire - D Tutton Sheffield & Hallamshire - B Jones Shropshire - D Simpson Somerset & Avon - AP Hockley Staffordshire - M Stokes Suffolk - B Badcock Surrey - RS Lewis Sussex - A J Kybett West Riding - B Chaplin Westmorland - G Aplin Wiltshire - RJ Gardiner Worcestershire - R Northall Affiliated OrganisationsThe League Managers’ Association - H Wilkinson The Professional Footballers Association - G Taylor OBE The Referees’ Association - D Crick The Football Conference (2) - C Clapham MBE & T Kleanthous The Northern Premier League - K Brown The Southern League - K Turner The Isthmian League - N Robinson Other Football Associations The University of Oxford Football Association - R Tur The University of Cambridge FA - Dr J A Little The Army Football Association - Major WTE Thomson The Royal Navy Football Association - S Johnson The Royal Air Force Football Association - Wg Cdr N Hope MBE The Amateur Football Alliance - M Brown The Women’s Football Conference (2) - Ms S Hough MBE & Mr T Win The English Schools’ Football Association - J A Read The Independent Schools’ Football Association - D R Elleray MBE The Supporters’ Representative Dr M Clarke Disability Football Representative C Chaytors Inclusion Representatives (x2) Rimla Akhtar TBC General SecretaryA Horne Independent Non Executive DirectorsR Devlin H Rabbatts CBE
But the 19.04 chant still needs a countdown to it and the versions sung in the second half on Thursday where taken up by more of the crowd. Thats the whole problem with HCST and it will always be the problem, trusts founded out of protest cannot ever fully represent the supporter base. On here Fez points out that Dean Windass may not be a good role model to go into the community, but what about some members of HCST? Are they good role models? Everything to do with public support involves credibility and that is going to be HCST biggest challenge. You and I will always disagree about protest, I accept that. As I see it, the old CTWD would have by now come up with a statement about Dean Windass, along the lines of you disagree with his use of the term Hull Tigers, but do not condone the attacks on him on twitter, but now?
You are entitled to your own opinion, Chazz. What he has done within his own family is his and their affair, if you wish your children to consider him as a great life example then that is your affair, but I would not wish any authority promoting Windass as a lifestyle icon to any of my children, so I suggest you hold him up to the light of your children privately, not on a broadbrush basis. It seems you speak for 'everyone' again, Chazz.
The Allams aren't actually appealing the name change. They're appealing the FA process. As the FA followed there rule book nothing can be done.
Surely the focus should be on us staying in the league, rather than fannying about with the name? That has to be the most pertinent focus for everybody at the club. No good being called 'Hull Tigers' and playing in The Championship. We really don't need any more distractions at the moment, but this issue just will not go away. Allam is just too conceited and pig-headed to let this drop.
These Sir D G Richards, The Premier League Representatives of The Premier League (8)D Barnard (Chelsea FC) M Byrne (Sunderland AFC) D Eales (Tottenham Hotspur FC) P Faulkner (Aston Villa) P Alexander (Premier League) I Gazidis (Arsenal) D Gill (Manchester Utd FC) TBC Representatives of The Football League (8)A J Ambler (Millwall FC) S R Bowker CBE (Independent) G Clarke (FL Chairman) K Lamb (Middlesbrough FC) I Lenagan (Oxford United FC) J Mostyn (Bournemouth AFC) J Nixon (Carlisle United) J Rodwell (Notts County FC) Divisional RepresentativesDivision 1 - D Robinson, Billingham Synthonia FC Division 2 - R Coar, Blackburn Rovers FC Division 3 - A Shaw, Altrincham FC Division 4 - J Moxey, Wolverhampton Wanderers FC Division 5 - P M Hough, Doncaster Rovers FC Division 6 - A Neville, Leicester City FC Division 7 - S Webb, Ipswich Town FC Division 8 - C Reeves, Poole Town FC Division 9 - IL Beeks MBE, JP Wycombe Wanderers FC Division 10 - JD Pearce, Bognor Regis Town FC
You open up a wider argument, about the limitations the HCTS has set itself; tactically, can it be as effective as it was in the guise of a one-sided campaign group? The point you make (above) I totally agree with and have said so previously; not addressing this makes any support of the HCST untenable.
He carnt be skint he has property portfolio of houses he rents out that we could all make a tidy living out of.
But who do you speak to about it other than on here Fez? At least two influential members of CTWD have said to me that they now think Assem Allam will succeed. Even if it is rejected now there is nothing in the FA rules to stop any number of applications by a club, it could apply every season and unless Assem Allam can find a buyer willing to pay what he wants for the club, what has he got to lose by resubmitting his application time and time again.
You've just taken your argument to a whole new level - you're talking about 'supporters' who are not controllable, not easily identified as actually being members and hardly representative, just as those who go to extremes from the opposite viewpoint are not representative. I would, though, make the observation that pro-Hull Tigers has its very roots in lies, deception, manipulation and bullying, so I guess some things are led by example.
What a ****ing idiotic thing to say Mr Perfect. Windass is going in to talk about football not his ****ing divorce. So do you think your childrens teachers should all be happily married not suffer with M/H problems etc etc. Because they do, its called real ****ing life.
If the FA allow the name change they will face a huge backlash from the wider football family. It would open them up to a legal challenge because Hull City did not comply with the Premier league rules in making its original application. It could lose control of its right to decide on name changes, club strips, ground naming rights and many other things if parliament passes legislation to ensure supporters are consulted. On top of all that there is the response between now and the end of the season from Hull City supporters.
Have we really? Where was this, when was this and why have you kept quiet until now? The police should be involved i take it? I hope so as thats disgusting.
Most of those against the name change keep going on about the history of the club but turn on one of the very legends who was a key part of that history. It's a very sad indeed, those who booded should hang their heads in shame we don't need supporters like that.