Forget the sad jack M8 , bet he is a civil servant , 2.2 kids and a good pension plan ...........................................
well he aint very civil,but I can see where the servant part comes into it ps I bet he wont have the same pension as mr blair <wink>
Good job, both kids in Uni, excellent index linked pension, house paid for, not bad for a lad from a council estate. Just goes to show put in a little effort and you can reap rewards in this wonderful country. Or you can be like aber, who started sweating at the word effort and rolled another spliff. Back to your sad little life aber been nowhere done nothing, well into middle age and you realise its all past you by.
surely you have better than that for me..........poor even by a jacks standards. ps I couldn't give a fk about your little world....but I will ask one question about your life.......are you happy ?
Happy as a pig in dooda aber, keep smoking, keep yourself numb avoid the reality that your sad little life became.
..........deal with bigger issues gendros, stop the silly rubbish and deal with what my thread is about...............if you can of course..............tbh I`d be shocked if I got some facts instead of the same old you smoke weed your paranoid bollocks from a head up arse person..........................................................these people(snowden,manning etc) have put theyre lives at risk for our sake, is if anything another sacrifice.....this time the church doesn't need them as our saviours, so they are left 2 the clutches of the shut him up crowd.
Snowden is a traitor to his country, he deserves nothing less than a trial in the USA and sentencing if found guilty. As the USA are our greatest allies, we should support them in bringing this traitor to justice. USA and the UK are world leaders in democracy and free speech, it is because of this democracy that even a drug addled numpty like you is allowed to speak his tripe without recrimination. Thank the lord there are very few people like you in this country and that very few give you any credence.
not bad gendros at least u have some cells in that shell on your shoulders.....................................but of course your wrong .................the fact is they are hounding this guy for revealing truths the yank and brit governments and SECRET SERVICES have been covering up...............tell me why does someone who works for us have 2 see everybodies personal details....don't you like privacy...............everything the government does should not be a secret it should be open for the people 2 see how we run our country and where our taxes are being spent>>>>>>>>>>>>>it doesn't take a banker 2 tell you we spend more on weapons of mass destruction than we do on our NHS.............please explain why they do this. also 95percent of poppy production is now coming from Afghanistan why??? who`s importing it into the uk????..the Taliban?the forces? both are worrying if you ask me......but there we go hey. open them eye`s gendros your being blinded by your lack of self education. SNOWDEN IS A HERO......he`s one of few who deserves a meddle
gendros lets be honest you wont be going away with the swans>>>>>your so full of crap . the last time you were in Europe didn't you boys have a kicking for being small minded...........was it your fine family based fan base that you had 2 try and raise money for them 2 be released from prison..........ps I noticed your game against breda was cancelled for hooligan reasons..............a strange decision made against a fine upstanding club from little old west wales...............NOW IF THAT WAS US......I wonder what would be said
The truth is Aber nearly everything we do is being observed or tracked in some way - probably some guy even monitoring these threads! I see old Bellars is hanging his Welsh boots up soon - it will be interesting to see how he gets on this coming season.
The American government should also be put on trial then. Not only have they spied on their own, but it is also been alleged that they have tapped the offices of European and South American countries. Snowden should be saluted for bringing to light this criminal activity by the American government. You talk about free speech gendros, but when somebody blows the whistle on illegal/criminal activity within a secret service agency, of one of the worlds most powerful nations, then you say he is a traitor and should be put on trial. Should the head of the agency involved, or Obama (the commander in chief) be put on trial for the illegal invasion of privacy that has happened here? If you want to talk about an American going on trial, then maybe Bush jr and his sidekick Blair should be put on trial for their WMD 'myth' that led to an illegal invasion of Iraq, and the deaths of thousands of soldiers and innocent civilians
I didn't realise Cardiff was so full of paranoid green smokers, I personally don't mind the 'intrusion' as I trust that the people who do the 'spying' have my interests at heart, my protection and even more so my family's protection. These agencies are protectin g us and our way of life from those who would bring it down. It seems some have something to hide, me there is nothing to hide. Snow den has put his country at risk and should be brought to a fair trail and sentenced according to the law. I saw at first hand what Saddam did to Kuwait, I've seen footage of what that brute did to the Kurds, what do you suggest, we let him get away with that and hold the whole of the Western world to ransom by stealing the oil and uping prices? Its fantastic in this great free country that the numpties who benefit most are allowed to bleat the loudest. A day is coming though, when those of us who pay the taxes to keep the likes of Aber sat on his fat arse smoking green, pay for his health care, pay for his kids to be educated will say enough and pull the plug, then there will be a wailing and a gnashing of teeth.
well if you have nothing 2 hide what is your account number.......I wont take nowt honest I just want 2 see no terrorist is using it 2fund the buying of weapons from brits 2 use on the brits.....<Ok> lets be honest butty you have fallen hook line and sinker for the TERROR word, and you may enjoy some freedoms your kids will never have if they keep chipping away>>>>>>>>>>>>> again dude listen 2 people who have lots more 2lose than you could ever dream of, snowden on 200grand a year living in hawaii has giving that up for us because what he saw wasn't right...it was anti liberty and an intrusion into our private lives>>>note the word private I didn't know oliver stone smoked weed....looks good for it 2 lol [video=youtube;NIb0a6CUFMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NIb0a6CUFMA[/video]
cheers glam no doubt people are monitoring forums, in fact you can bet your bottom dollar on it............but as long as anonymous are doing what they say they are doing, we`ll be ok net wise.............its when mass arrests happen we may be in trouble........and that has started with lots of hackers already doing life behind bars for breaches into official documents.
Gendros Some information for you Saddam, was given power by we Brits, backed by your beloved but deadly friends the Americans. We put him in power to maintain the flow of the black stuff out of the region. We Brits and them pesky yanks sanctioned Saddam's atrocities by ignoring the cries of the innocent. Many bravely approached the west begging for help but we refused, simply informing Saddam's Police of the names and information we'd received so they could 'deal' with it. We allowed, through our inactivity, his madness to reign over any who opposed, threatened or simply were disliked by him. We gave him the power, the guns, the army, the military infrastructure, the wealth, the means to be a successful tyrant and for decades the cries coming from his prisons were met by deaf diplomatic envoys on jollys to Baghdad Our attitude changed towards him AFTER he refused to allow a US base of operations be installed on his borders and, in his lunatic mind, far too close to his southern oil fields for comfort. Lots happened after that all leading to the Kuwait war where the west semi went to war against him..... ....but let him off the hook, we let him go. Still the atrocities continued and still we heard them but did nothing for years against Saddam until, that is, years after the act he decided he wanted back the oilfields he lost in the aftermath of the Kuwait war. This time Saddam made an error of judgment, he assumed his survival of the Kuwait war was down to his superior military mind and not due to the incompetence of the 'Private' agencies that ran the war in Kuwait; Our military were directed by our Government to take direct orders from these non aligned, private agencies. Within a year of Saddam threatening the flow of oil within his region his county was placed under international, unilateral, trade sanctions directly leading to the death from malnutrition, sickness and infection, of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and CHILDREN, that's children just like yours buddy. After years of ignoring his atrocities, after years of state visits, him to here, Royalty to there, him to the USA, US president (3 of them) to there, and PM (4 of them) to there, after decades of cheek clenching Détente the only reason our attitude changed was because the flow of the oligarchs oil was threatened. .......and the rest is history, towers fell, wars began, camps opened, rendition sanctioned, innocents kidnapped and some killed on London tubes. Since then the sanctity and rite to freedom which every ones God gives us all at birth has been violated, raped and twisted beyond that of any Orwellian fiction. Our natural born rites and freedoms have gone, never to be return to me or my children unless....??
