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Jezz511 said:
Do we know if Tim's other teams were this open defensively? Is it a personnel problem with Jones and Macca or would prime Vidic and Ferdinand struggle playing like this?

I know people said it would be more open but it just seems like an issue me than a stylistic choice.
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It’s not just centre halves, it’s the whole team and approach. Wingers not tracking back, defenders standing miles apart, defenders not being in a line or a bank of 4, not moving together as a unit, centre halves ending up up front, midfielders not dropping back to plug gaps, midfielders not chasing back when we’re being broken against. There is just no defensive organisation whatsoever.

What we are being served is what I imagine we’d get if a fan got to be manager.
 
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Jezz511 said:
Do we know if Tim's other teams were this open defensively? Is it a personnel problem with Jones and Macca or would prime Vidic and Ferdinand struggle playing like this?

I know people said it would be more open but it just seems like an issue me than a stylistic choice.
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His first season at Hamburg was very similar to this apparently. They conceded the most goals from counter-attacks if I remember correctly. They did finish 3rd but they were a big fish in a small pond. He did actually sacrifice some of the ‘heart attack’ football in his second season to have a more solid defence and they conceded fewer goals and were harder to break down.
 
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Our middle players Slater. Mehlem , Zambrano etc seemed to be a yard slow to get to a player or a second too slow to move . I also need Slater to learn to cushion a ball and not try to run before he’s got it in control .
 
Interesting timing but as it's an International Break our podcast is looking back on the 2010s, and we're up to the start of the 2018/19 season under Adkins, where we started atrociously, but stuck with him and if not for the ownership brilliance of bringing in the mighty Liam Ridgewell as the sum total (just about) of our January reinforcements, we may have actually made it. I still use that Aston Villa 2-2 as my go-to game of just how close we've come to the play offs.

Just thought it might prove to be an interesting discussion in the context of Walter.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Interesting timing but as it's an International Break our podcast is looking back on the 2010s, and we're up to the start of the 2018/19 season under Adkins, where we started atrociously, but stuck with him and if not for the ownership brilliance of bringing in the mighty Liam Ridgewell as the sum total (just about) of our January reinforcements, we may have actually made it. I still use that Aston Villa 2-2 as my go-to game of just how close we've come to the play offs.

Just thought it might prove to be an interesting discussion in the context of Walter.
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Could also look at the fact that we didn't stick with Rosenior despite progress up the table as he wouldn't play attacking football and he's now only lost 1 in 6 at strasbourg averaging 2 goals a game.

And in the one game they did lose they scored 3.
 
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Yeah I’m starting to worry a little, we don’t look like we are getting any better.
The striker issue isn’t his fault but the fact we don’t create that much for the striker considering his reputation is his fault.
We don’t play any better than last season considering the “heart attack football” talk.
It’s a worry

*im not saying sacking Rosie was the wrong decision.
 
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I can't really be arsed to jump on the Walter Out bandwagon. We have problems scoring. Have done for a while. I've always thought that some of the hype and expectation around what Walter was going to do was never realistic, and was built on a misunderstanding of what was wrong with the team before him anyway. But he's doing alright. It's fairly frustrating and uninspiring which is nothing new. We're alright though. Meh.
 
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PLT said:
I can't really be arsed to jump on the Walter Out bandwagon. We have problems scoring. Have done for a while. I've always thought that some of the hype and expectation around what Walter was going to do was never realistic, and was built on a misunderstanding of what was wrong with the team before him anyway. But he's doing alright. It's fairly frustrating and uninspiring which is nothing new. We're alright though. Meh.
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Exactly this
Posters who wanted to continue iwth rosenior for stability
Now want to sack a bloke who’s been here a few months.
We aren’t going down
So what’s the problem?
It will get better or stay the same not get worse
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Exactly this
Posters who wanted to continue iwth rosenior for stability
Now want to sack a bloke who’s been here a few months.
We aren’t going down
So what’s the problem?
It will get better or stay the same not get worse
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Having stability under a perfectly competent and improving young manager is completely different to retaining an absolute chancer for the illusion of stability.
 
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