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I see VAR has even stopped Klopp from getting excited

when he was asked about being less animated after a goal today he said something along the lines of ‘Its not the same anymore...you can celebrate after but why waste my energy when you know there will be a review’

What he meant was it's hard to celebrate when you know it should have been disallowed.
 
What he meant was it's hard to celebrate when you know it should have been disallowed.
Will he have been sure from where he was? (didn’t watch it so no idea)

either way he’ll have celebrated plenty of goals before as we all have, but it’s always only been seconds before you know...instead of having time to make a cup of tea while someone decides.
 
That was another VAR fail yesterday, it was definitely handball.

The Alexander-Arnold one immediately before the first goal?

You could argue it was handball, but it touched Silva's hand first, and under the new rules that's an instant free kick to the defending team regardless of intent or anything, so I don't really see why there's even a debate about the penalty shout.
 
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A group of Premier League chiefs will demand changes to what one has described as “the car crash that is VAR” and raise the possibility of scrapping the technology mid-season.

The 20 clubs will meet Mike Riley, the head of referees, on Thursday, with a concerned group of chairmen and chief executives calling for answers over the inconsistent introduction of technology that they feel is damaging their league.

“Thursday will be a punchy and free discussion,” one leading chief executive said. “Is VAR improving the game? No. I do think some clubs will say we should scrap VAR now for the season. I think someone will say VAR is making a laughing stock of the league.

(Times Sport)
 
A group of Premier League chiefs will demand changes to what one has described as “the car crash that is VAR” and raise the possibility of scrapping the technology mid-season.

The 20 clubs will meet Mike Riley, the head of referees, on Thursday, with a concerned group of chairmen and chief executives calling for answers over the inconsistent introduction of technology that they feel is damaging their league.

“Thursday will be a punchy and free discussion,” one leading chief executive said. “Is VAR improving the game? No. I do think some clubs will say we should scrap VAR now for the season. I think someone will say VAR is making a laughing stock of the league.

(Times Sport)

They’ve got a point. They should have listened to the supporters from the off.
 
The only positive thing to have come out of the VAR exercise is that refs don't get harassed and verbally assaulted as much as they used to when an unpopular decision was made.
 
The Alexander-Arnold one immediately before the first goal?

You could argue it was handball, but it touched Silva's hand first, and under the new rules that's an instant free kick to the defending team regardless of intent or anything, so I don't really see why there's even a debate about the penalty shout.

Was Arnold’s arm in an unnatural position also? Given he was coming to a standstill and then changing direction quickly after the deflection off the Man City player. So yes I agree with you that it wasn’t a penalty.

But VAR, it can **** off. Ruining the game. Who was offside the other day by a big toe or an armpit? It’s taking the fluency out of the game for very borderline decisions.
 
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Pretty much every ex-referee said it was deliberate handball, they only disagreed over whether it should have been a penalty (due to Silva's touch)...

‘Manchester City should have had a first-half penalty when Trent Alexander-Arnold handled inside the box, I felt the right-back had his right arm in an unnatural position, made himself bigger and deliberately moved it out to stop the ball going to Raheem Sterling. Therefore I disagree with the Premier League statement which claimed it did not meet the considerations for a deliberate handball.’ (Mark Halsey)

'I can understand Pep Guardiola feeling hard done by because his Manchester City side should have been awarded a penalty for Trent Alexander-Arnold’s handball just six minutes into the match at Anfield. In my opinion it is exactly the sort of clear and obvious error that VAR was introduced to deal with, and City should have had a spot kick'. (Keith Hackett)

"If Silva's arm does not divert the ball, then yes, I believe a penalty should have been awarded as Alexander-Arnold's arm is in an unnatural position and he is using it to make himself bigger. That is why I do not understand the Premier League explanation that it was not a deliberate handball." (Mark Clattenburg)
 
Regardless of what happened either way, Liverpool shouldn't have been allowed to go up the other end and score. The game should've been stopped right there.
 
You can go around the houses on this as there’s as many people that don’t think it’s a penalty based on TAA having his arms in a natural position. You don’t run with your arms behind your back or by your side.
 
You can go around the houses on this as there’s as many people that don’t think it’s a penalty based on TAA having his arms in a natural position. You don’t run with your arms behind your back or by your side.

Oleg Sokolov does!

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They could get rid of VAR but then Managers, players and fans should accept the bad decisions that will happen.