Tony Mowbray ...

[Nads]

Amen to that. Seeing a lot on twitter critising "Speakmans plan" or "KLDs model" etc etc

Its actually Sunderland's plan and Sunderland's model. And it isn't going away. And its so far given us the most exciting times to be a Sunderland fan in my lifetime. So they have carte blanche to an extent with me.

They absolutely do mate, they own the club.

But as you say, that’s fine and it’s been good so far, great in fact. We overachieved last season for sure in terms of where we expected to finish at start of season, but that doesn’t make it ok to drift backward.

Momentum is everything in sport.

 

[Essayyeffcee]

Am not reading arl this shìte. Like gossiping awld wimmins with yer theories

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[OldNewtown]

This sacking might FINALLY cure me of my addiction to Sunderland AFC.

Before calling it quits, Ill wait ans see what comes next, but afterwll over seventy years, the club might have managed to get rid of me.

You don't get out that easily

 

[TopCat.]

You will know as well as I do there has been a breakdown between TM and KS for some time.

Since pre-season tour, if not before. This was always going to happen eventually

 

[OldNewtown]

Just had a passing thought so I had a quick look to make sure i was accurate..

Diallo had played 500 minutes of football at a senior level before he came here. 343 of those in the SPL. Just something to think about for those who keep saying the strikers aren’t ready because of a lack of “championship” football.

It did take him a while to adjust before then kicking on mind.

 

[Nads]

The initial betting looks grim mind happy it means nowt ha.

Edit: it’s changed so Sable favourite and Potter (pleeeease) not viewed as impossible.

 

[Southern A]

The initial betting looks grim mind happy it means nowt ha.

Edit: it’s changed so Sable favourite and Potter (pleeeease) not viewed as impossible.

that will be based purely on the forums last night spreading to social media

 

[OldNewtown]

The initial betting looks grim mind happy it means nowt ha.

Edit: it’s changed so Sable favourite and Potter (pleeeease) not viewed as impossible.

Potter's odds will be based on a fool and his money thinking or some daft lad hoping a £10 bet on.

 

[Oldsandy]

It's a really hard gig. You know me, I have said the model needs flex. Others disagree. That's now Neil and Mowbray who felt the same and paid the price. Even though Mowbray has performed above his stations last year. Ran out of ideas ultimately this year and they didn't hesitate.

Be someone who is on their data list, capable of playing multiple systems, trust in youth and will just be technical head coach. That will rule out nearly all ok the bookies list currently.

Sucess without further investment / flex will be so so hard and fair play to anyone who manages it.

Bringing on young players to sell may look ok on paper, but the top clubs buy the top players - they rarely sell them. This is a genuine question: Do any of today’s clubs that compete consistently at the top of their own leagues and in Europe run on this template? How many out of how many?

 

[Daz]

The initial betting looks grim mind happy it means nowt ha.

Edit: it’s changed so Sable favourite and Potter (pleeeease) not viewed as impossible.

Waste of time looking mate, pretty sure they just have the same names with every manager job available.

Copy, paste, change club name.

 

[Southern A]

Sky Bet's odds have Thierry Henry and Gourvennec in the top 15. Both names mentioned in here. Gourvennec started a new job 5 days ago.

Genuinely think the bookmakers are using AI to data mine over forums like this to pick out names.

Even Farioli is 11th favourite on SkyBet

 

[Jarca]

Bringing on young players to sell may look ok on paper, but the top clubs buy the top players - they rarely sell them. This is a genuine question: Do any of today’s clubs that compete consistently at the top of their own leagues and in Europe run on this template? How many out of how many?

Every club is a selling club apart from possibly Real Madrid. They are at the top of the food chain.

 

[Sour Patch]

Every club is a selling club apart from possibly Real Madrid. They are at the top of the food chain.

And even they sell well, made a profit in transfer market the last few years before this summer. Its all about selling players at the right time, keeping players and allowing them to run down contracts and decrease in value is detrimental to long term success.

 

[The Norton Cat]

Bringing on young players to sell may look ok on paper, but the top clubs buy the top players - they rarely sell them. This is a genuine question: Do any of today’s clubs that compete consistently at the top of their own leagues and in Europe run on this template? How many out of how many?

Dortmund and Atletico Madrid have done well out of that kind of policy over the last decade or so. Its basically how clubs like Ajax, Benfica, Porto have to operate to survive due to their big European club status in relatively low ranking leagues. RB Salzburg are pretty much doing the same thing too.

 

[Sour Patch]

Bringing on young players to sell may look ok on paper, but the top clubs buy the top players - they rarely sell them. This is a genuine question: Do any of today’s clubs that compete consistently at the top of their own leagues and in Europe run on this template? How many out of how many?

Every top club sells. Liverpool sold Coutinho and brought in Van Dijk and Alisson with the money and they constantly sell squad players for big fees, City are always refreshing their squad by selling players, Spurs sold their best player in Kane and look better without him. The only big club that fails to sell players is Man Utd and they are paying the price for that. It's all about developing an asset, getting the most money you can and reinvesting into the squad.

 

[Nads]

Potter's odds will be based on a fool and his money thinking or some daft lad hoping a £10 bet on.

I fully agree but as I think he’s the dream appointment I will cling to any scraps of it happening ha.

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Simon Jordan currently ripping into TM on talksport for not keeping his trap shut in the public domain instead of having it out with KLD personally

 

[rooch 3]

Don’t disagree up to now. But there needs to be some flex in the model, can’t keep burning managers every 12 months. See where we are in 12 months and what the position looks like. Hopefully the next appointment is for the long term

I don’t see how anyone can expect anyone long term, as soon as they have a poor run they know now they will be sacked. Don’t see this queuing for a job either. Maybe the scratters but nobody with anything about them.

Manager wanted
Salary poor to fair
Appointment
You have to work kids I buy for you and I choose who we get rid of,
If you have a blip you will be sacked.
Are you interested.
Shove and hoop comes to mind.

 

[Bob the Mackem]

Since pre-season tour, if not before. This was always going to happen eventually

It blew up after Huddersfield then again in TMs office, final straw after Millwall.

 

[Jarca]

I don’t see how anyone can expect anyone long term, as soon as they have a poor run they know now they will be sacked. Don’t see this queuing for a job either. Maybe the scratters but nobody with anything about them.

Manager wanted
Salary poor to fair
Appointment
You have to work kids I buy for you and I choose who we get rid of,
If you have a blip you will be sacked.
Are you interested.
Shove and hoop comes to mind.

You mean kids like Ballard, Clarke, Hume, Cirkin (when fit), Huggins, Ekwah, Bellingham etc. There is so much growth in this team, I'm confident we'll have suitable coaches ready to step in to TM's shoes.