The Hornets' Nest II

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Scullion said:
The only reason for employing some one should be based on their merit and ability to do the job, it should be a business decision not a political or social one etc. Likewise you should not employ some one just because of their race, sex or some other lefty reason.
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True - however I can't help thinking back to what my now-deceased mum said during discussions with the family on how best to have her looked after when she became unable to live by herself. One option put forward was to have an either live-in or visiting carer - mum was adamant that that would only be acceptable if the carer wasn't "a blackie". She was in her late 80s, had fixed views that she wouldn't change (wouldn't or couldn't explain them either, and had never voiced them previously), so we dropped that idea for fear of both upsetting her and upsetting the Employment Law nazis....

She ended up in a rather expensive nursing home - where she did have a disturbing encounter with a coloured nurse, ringing me at 2:00am screaming that there was 'a blackie had come in to her room to get her'. Both nurse and nursing home were very understanding & simply re-arranged rosters so that it didn't happen again
 
Scullion said:
The only reason for employing some one should be based on their merit and ability to do the job, it should be a business decision not a political or social one etc. Likewise you should not employ some one just because of their race, sex or some other lefty reason.
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Lefty reason? I suspect there are as many if not more righty reasons for not employing someone....hair too long, not a Freemason, doesn't play golf etc. Or perhaps political perspective isn't often the reason at all.
 
hornethologist a.k.a. theo said:
Lefty reason? I suspect there are as many if not more righty reasons for not employing someone....hair too long, not a Freemason, doesn't play golf etc. Or perhaps political perspective isn't often the reason at all.
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I agree with that entirely Theo. My place (a nameless givernemnet Department) is a bit odd in that respect - targets on females and Black and ethnic minorities in senior positions but then you look at the fast track employees they bring in and the male intake is all youngish ex public school boys almost all of whom sound like refugees from Brideshead! The women always seem to have much more impressive CVs and i've never met someone in that specific category who was black. It should be said that some of the other departments are not as bad in that respect
 
Hæ það allir. Cappuccino, coffee, tea donuts and fruit are on the bar.

Frothy cappuccinos for al, HH, and W_Y
Coffee and caramel frapachino for IB
Coffees for COYH, Frenchie, Kev rob theo vic-rijrode and kiwiqpr
Strong coffee for Sandy
Milky coffee for Yorkie
Espresso for SuffolkHorn
Strong black coffees for Bragi Norway and zen
Black coffee half hot half cold and no sugar for Charlie
A peppermint latte for DanH
Tea for BHD Cornish Mark jsybarry Lloydinio NZ and BCFCRed
Tea with skimmed milk and no sugar for GG and Leon
Hot chocolate with marshmallows for BBW
Caramel latte for Hornette Scullion Canary Dave Fossefilberto and Maestro
Una paloma for Mexican Hornet


I thought you might like this there are more women here than men!
http://vikudagur.is/vikudagur/nor%C3%B0lenskar-fr%C3%A9ttir/2014/01/13/%C3%ADb%C3%BAar-akureyrar-18110 http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=29314&ew_0_a_id=405204
 
Scullion said:
The only reason for employing some one should be based on their merit and ability to do the job, it should be a business decision not a political or social one etc. Likewise you should not employ some one just because of their race, sex or some other lefty reason.
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Loosely connected to yesterday's discussion - was reading this earlier http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ource=indynewsletter&utm_medium=email15012014 - tends to suggest that legislation against 'discriminatory practices' doesn't always work as people simply ignore it....
 
hornethologist a.k.a. theo said:
Lefty reason? I suspect there are as many if not more righty reasons for not employing someone....hair too long, not a Freemason, doesn't play golf etc. Or perhaps political perspective isn't often the reason at all.
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Lefty reason was perhaps a wrong choice of word. As some of us have pointed out, despite the legislation, there is a lot of discrimination that goes on that is not legislated against and often cannot be proven although we all know it goes on. I am not a Mason, play golf of squash and don't want to network etc and I am sure that has affected my job opportunities, just don't like playing these games. Still I managed to do ok.
 
I spotted this and thought what a waste of talent with the style of football he was being asked to play in. http://au.eurosport.com/football/chalobah-leaves-forest_sto4090642/story.shtml I watched a Forest game when he started the game, but was subbed. During the first half when he was on the pitch he spent most of it watching the ball flying over his head. A good example I think of how a very good player can look poor when in a team not using him in the right way. Yes he had his off days, but was very young. I wonder if he was still with us would we have had such a poor run leading to the departure of GFZ?
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
I spotted this and thought what a waste of talent with the style of football he was being asked to play in. http://au.eurosport.com/football/chalobah-leaves-forest_sto4090642/story.shtml I watched a Forest game when he started the game, but was subbed. During the first half when he was on the pitch he spent most of it watching the ball flying over his head. A good example I think of how a very good player can look poor when in a team not using him in the right way. Yes he had his off days, but was very young. I wonder if he was still with us would we have had such a poor run leading to the departure of GFZ?
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Great shame....
 
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